This is a difficult and technical discussion, but basically what he's saying is that it mostly works; that most meshes don't NEED to scale so they will work alright. 802.11s, HSLS, OSLR, BATMAN, etc are all protocols that only scale so far while retaining good user experience. <div>
<br></div><div>I really feel like this is punting. We don't have a workable, scalable solution to a global p2p internet. We will be creating the same problems that the Internet currently has...multiple networks, loosely connected. This sounds like a great idea, but has HUGE pitfalls (like easy filtering/censorship, disconnectability, etc). </div>
<div><br></div><div>We need a new paradigm. Sitting here stuck in the "it's hard" or "we know how to do this already" camp isn't getting us anywhere. Wireless is a valid last mile solution, but in terms of mesh it fails as a backhaul solution...since mesh is not a solution to anything. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Gordon Cook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cook@cookreport.com">cook@cookreport.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>From peter ecclesine what i regard as a rather definitive statement on where p2p mesh is heading.
</div><div><br></div><div>I a follow u messaGE TO ME HE called <span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px">HSLS is just another </span><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px"><font color="#FF3FBC">proprietary</font></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px"> mesh color emphasis mine.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px">My reason for calling attention to this is that before effort is spent on wireless meshes one better know from a technical point of view what is possible as well as what a standards compliant interface means from an economics and interoperable point of view.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:15px">Aaaron if you are able would you respond to comments that may be raised - I am on the book deadline i have been discussing with you</span></div>
<div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">"Peter Ecclesine (pecclesi)" <<a href="mailto:pecclesi@cisco.com" target="_blank">pecclesi@cisco.com</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">March 22, 2011 6:31:50 AM EDT<br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">"Economics of IP Networks" <<a href="mailto:arch-econ@cookreport.com" target="_blank">arch-econ@cookreport.com</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Re: [Arch-econ] Potential for global routeability in wireless mesh netsusing ipv6</b><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">Economics of IP Networks <<a href="mailto:arch-econ@cookreport.com" target="_blank">arch-econ@cookreport.com</a>><br>
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<div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Hi Gordon,</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> A couple of comments on what Sascha is saying about overhead and scaling mesh.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> In IEEE 802.11, we have been working on layer 2 mesh since 2005. In early 2005 we received a US Navy Research Labs proposal based on 15 years experience with mesh in Navy applications [algorithms disclosed starting on page 20]</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><a href="https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/05/11-05-0142-01-000s-proposal-dynamic-backbone-mesh.doc" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/05/11-05-0142-01-000s-proposal-dynamic-backbone-mesh.doc</a></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> It has each station send one broadcast packet every half second, and using consolidated logic, every three seconds it reforms a dynamic backbone mesh with one portal to the outside world, and connectivity among all stations. The algorithm won an IETF manet bakeoff at NRL using nineteen moving pickup trucks to relay traffic around the labs. The algorithms were disclosed in 2005 in the reference paper.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> HSLS description appears to be more chatty about link state.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> DBS has limits in scaling, and in 2008 the 802.11s Project scope was relaxed to address larger layer 2 systems.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> Last week, 802.11s gave a tutorial of their nearly complete amendment, expected to be published in September</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><a href="https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/11/11-11-0380-00-000s-mesh-tutorial.ppt" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/11/11-11-0380-00-000s-mesh-tutorial.ppt</a></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> Over the same timeframe, the SmartGrid industry has deployed smart meters using above layer 3 meshing, and now comes to a point where issues of security, performance and scaling cannot be ignored. Zigbee has not scaled to 12,000 power meter radios per pole top radio, nor scaled in security.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> The SGIP Smart Energy Profile group will choose whether to require an upgradable security schema or to grandfather the Texas SEP 1.x security system (which would be like accepting 802.11 WEP as a part of a security architecture).<span> </span><a href="http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-sggrid/pub/SmartGrid/HANTF/Home_Area_Networking_TF_SEP_recommendation_V3.doc" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://collaborate.nist.gov/twiki-sggrid/pub/SmartGrid/HANTF/Home_Area_Networking_TF_SEP_recommendation_V3.doc</a></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> To me, most mesh deployments will not have 20 hops, nor 10,000 nodes, and can function at layer 2/3, like switching does.</span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"> </span></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:arch-econ-bounces@cookreport.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">arch-econ-bounces@cookreport.com</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:arch-econ-bounces@cookreport.com" target="_blank">arch-econ-bounces@cookreport.com</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Gordon Cook<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:16 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Economics of IP Networks<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[Arch-econ] Potential for global routeability in wireless mesh netsusing ipv6</span></div>
</div></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> </div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
This is a result from a side discussion</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
and very very interesting to me. peter e or anyone - what is your opinion of what sascha is saying?</div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
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</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">Begin forwarded message:</div></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
<br><br></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">From:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">Sascha Meinrath <<a href="mailto:meinrath@newamerica.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">meinrath@newamerica.net</a>></span></div>
</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">Date:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">March 19, 2011 10:51:03 AM EDT</span></div>
</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">To:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">Gordon Cook <<a href="mailto:cook@cookreport.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">cook@cookreport.com</a>></span></div>
</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">Cc:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">P2P Foundation mailing list <<a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a>>, Michael Gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>,<span> </span><a href="mailto:armin@easynet.co.uk" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">armin@easynet.co.uk</a></span></div>
</div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica, sans-serif">Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fidonet in community wireless projects?</span></b></div>
</div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> </div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
Hi all,<br><br>On 03/19/2011 12:32 AM, Gordon Cook wrote:<br><br></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">in some way similar? Only in the store and forward sense of making the next</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">hop. Randy bush was backbacking around south america in the 1980s doing uucp</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">and then fido, dave hughes did fido with big sky telegraph, i carried a 9600</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">baud modem to moscow for one of the first russian fidos.</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> </div></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">wireless mesh is MUCH faster BUT although i'd like to see it happen i doubt that</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">it will ever be globally routable. sascha, do you agree or not? If anyone</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">thinks it can be globally routable please tell me how.</div>
</blockquote><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><br>IPv6 does allow global routability. Currently, we're working on distributed and<br>
ad-hoc mesh routability at massive scale. I don't think we've yet found a limit<br>and (thus far) technological improvements have outstripped any scalability<br>issues, but the problem of routing overhead is one that we're constantly working<br>
on. Meanwhile, in terms of precursors, I'd look more to ALOHAnet and the like.<br>Where Fidonet does have a closer parallel is in the notion of diffusion of<br>information -- i.e., that key info could move slowly and didn't need to suffuse<br>
the entire network simultaneously. When my team developed HSLS (see:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazy_Sighted_Link_State_Routing_Protocol" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazy_Sighted_Link_State_Routing_Protocol</a>) this was<br>
the key breakthrough (and what dramatically lowered routing overhead to make<br>mesh networking far more scalable. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince<br>developers I was working with to integrate the best-of tech from European folks,<br>
however, I was able to convince Europeans to integrate best-of tech from us. So<br>today, BATMAN and olsrd are the standards -- they uses HSLS-like routing, and<br>the tech scales to incredibly large networks.<br><br>--Sascha<br>
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in FidoNet far faster and more seriously than might be expected by those</div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
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quoted from<span> </span><a href="http://www.fidonet.org/inet92_Randy_Bush.txt" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.fidonet.org/inet92_Randy_Bush.txt</a><span> </span>)</div></blockquote>
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It would seem that there are at least some parallels, and that FidoNet,</div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
although technologically quite different from what we have today, was in some</div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
way a predecessor to the local mesh networks that are being established here</div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
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On 03/18/2011 03:58 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote:</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
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It's on the decline, but still alive (<a href="http://fidonet.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">fidonet.org</a><span> </span><<a href="http://fidonet.org/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://fidonet.org/</a>> I</div>
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decentralization is similar to some of the community LAN and wireless</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">technologies, but I wouldn't say Fidonet was a precursor (technologically</div>
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<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> -----Original Message-----</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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*From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>]</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
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*Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:49 PM</div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
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<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"> *Cc:* p2p-foundation; Sepp Hasslberger;<span> </span><a href="mailto:armin@easynet.co.uk" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">armin@easynet.co.uk</a></div>
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