where do you stand on this debate,<br><br>this is the deflationary position from steve keen, <a href="http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/straight-talk-steve-keen/47466">http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/straight-talk-steve-keen/47466</a><br>
<br>my own hunch is that, since the deleveraging and destruction of debt money has been so much greater than the pump-priming, and especially in the context of austerity budgets, deflation, with pockets of food and oil inflation, is the most likely ..<br>
<br><br><br><br><br><h5><span>3. </span>What is your rebuttal to the (hyper) inflationists?
What data would you need to see to reconsider your position? Does the
recent news and market reaction to QE2 affirm or challenge your
position?</h5>
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<p><strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Steve: </strong>The
hyper-inflationists basically argue that government money creation will
cause hyper-inflation. In this I think they’re unwittingly relying on
the “Money Multiplier” model of money creation: the government prints
$10, a depositor puts this in a bank account, the bank hangs onto $1 and
lends out the other $9, which is deposited in another bank, and so on.
Over time you turn $1 of government money into $10 total, which drives
up demand for goods and services and causes inflation.</p>
<p>The Central Banks themselves are relying on the same model—especially
Bernanke with QE1 and now QE2. So if the model actually worked, both
Central Banks and the hyper-inflationists would be right: inflation
would result and our current debt-deflationary crisis would become an
inflationary one. The only difference is that the Central Banks think
they can control and moderate the rate of inflation, and the
hyper-inflationists think it will be a runaway process.</p>
<p>The trouble is, as I showed in the “<a href="http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/01/31/therovingcavaliersofcredit/">Roving
Cavaliers of Credit</a>” post, is that this “deposits create loans”
model isn’t how credit money is actually created. Instead, as good
empirical work by Basil Moore and other Post Keynesians (and even
staunch neoclassicals like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier#CITEREFKydlandPrescott1990">Kydland
and Prescott</a>) has confirmed, “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous_money">loans create
deposits</a>”, and government money creation largely follows credit
money creation, rather than the other way around.</p>
<p>Ironically, this fallacy gives the hyper-inflationists and the
Central Bankers—in particular Bernanke—something in common: they both
appear to believe that Central Banks can cause inflation easily, and
that the Great Depression was the fault of the US Central Bank. Bernanke
goes to great lengths to assert this in his Essays on the Great
Depression, and even famously remarked to Milton Friedman and Anna
Schwartz at <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/20021108/default.htm">Friedman’s
90<sup>th</sup> birthday party</a> that:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official
representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and
Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You’re right, we did it. We’re
very sorry. But thanks to you, we won’t do it again”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>His main evidence was the collapse of M1 under the Fed in the 1930s,
which he said turned a mild downturn into the Great Recession, and on
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