thanks paul!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Paul B. Hartzog <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulbhartzog@gmail.com">paulbhartzog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Network Robustness and the Next Net<br>
<a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/network-robustness-and-the-next-net/2011/03/01%0A#nextnet" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/network-robustness-and-the-next-net/2011/03/01<br>
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <<a href="mailto:paulbhartzog@gmail.com">paulbhartzog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Michel, Colin, etc.<br>
><br>
> Sure, I'll put some more detail about this up online (with references).<br>
> In a nutshell, scale-free networks are robust to random failures,<br>
> but vulnerable to targeted attacks because you can simply<br>
> take out the hubs first and isolate most of the network parts<br>
> from the other parts.<br>
><br>
> -p<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Colin H <<a href="mailto:hawkett@gmail.com">hawkett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Paul - agree with the sentiment about diversity of routes (and probably<br>
>> protocols) being more robust, but I was wondering if you could elaborate on<br>
>> this statement<br>
>> Network topologies robust to random failures are NOT robust to targeted<br>
>> attacks.<br>
>> Network topologies robust to targeted attacks are NOT robust to random<br>
>> failures.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm imagining a mesh network using a single routing method/topology (e.g.<br>
>> like the system devin highlighted). This architecture does not preclude<br>
>> multiple routes (in fact in a network with a lot of nodes, there should be<br>
>> multiple routes). This would seem to be an architecture robust to random<br>
>> failures, but I'm not sure why that architecture would make it any less<br>
>> robust to targeted attack than our current internet - in fact it is probably<br>
>> more robust (from a failure/attack perspective). I figure I'm looking at it<br>
>> from a different perspective though :)<br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Colin<br>
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Paul B. Hartzog <<a href="mailto:paulbhartzog@gmail.com">paulbhartzog@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Dear Paul,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > it would be useful, if, for example you were going through the list, to<br>
>>> > identify the more 'core' solutions, perhaps through a star system or<br>
>>> > some<br>
>>> > such,<br>
>>><br>
>>> will try to get a start on that. �I'm only online 2 hrs / day until I<br>
>>> get back home<br>
>>> from Salt Lake City (i.e. Friday will be back to normal)<br>
>>><br>
>>> > an important question for me is: what is really possible, given a<br>
>>> > society<br>
>>> > dominated by hostile forces? we may not get all we want, and therefore<br>
>>> > should perhaps focus on leverage points that give the greatest return<br>
>>> > for a<br>
>>> > realistic investment of available forces ..<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Yes, you have hit on a key point which needs to be discussed / navigated.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Basically this:<br>
>>> Network topologies robust to random failures are NOT robust to targeted<br>
>>> attacks.<br>
>>> Network topologies robust to targeted attacks are NOT robust to random<br>
>>> failures.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The solution of course is to move beyond a singular topology to a plural<br>
>>> one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In other words,<br>
>>> Imagine a dual-network with TWO routing methods and TWO topologies ,<br>
>>> and requests are sent in parallel along both networks,<br>
>>> so that if nodes are down in one network, data is routed via the other.<br>
>>><br>
>>> TWO is a minimum, though.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The pluralization of networks goes back to the pluralization of politics<br>
>>> taken up by Connolly in his work The Ethos of Pluralization<br>
>>> ( <a href="http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/C/connolly_ethos.html" target="_blank">http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/C/connolly_ethos.html</a> )<br>
>>><br>
>>> It is another example of why code people should know theory,<br>
>>> and theory people should learn code. �Cross-domain knowledges.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -p<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Michel<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Paul B. Hartzog<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:paulbhartzog@gmail.com">paulbhartzog@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Yes, I was reviewing that page today from Salt Lake City in fact and<br>
>>> >> there are good categories there.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> From a "lets build it" perspective though<br>
>>> >> I am going to suggest another page with the same ingredients<br>
>>> >> but displayed differently<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> As we identify and bring in various projects<br>
>>> >> it is crucial to list them according to what layer they address.<br>
>>> >> (you can see the layers of OSI here<br>
>>> >> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model</a> )<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> It's probably not necessary to display entirely based<br>
>>> >> on the full OSI stack,<br>
>>> >> but we at least should probably separate atoms from bits,<br>
>>> >> i.e.<br>
>>> >> projects that address distributed hardware<br>
>>> >> projects that address distributed software<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> technically, running distributed hardware requires<br>
>>> >> software on those nodes anyway,<br>
>>> >> but hopefully you see the point.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Most of the projects I've seen are simply<br>
>>> >> software that has some p2p-ish aspect.<br>
>>> >> Slapping that onto a network with ISP's and a backbone,<br>
>>> >> and an oligopoly of router equipment<br>
>>> >> isn't going to solve either provisioning/bandwidth or governance<br>
>>> >> issues.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> We need to support interest in both hardware and software<br>
>>> >> solutions in order to really build a new p2p net.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> (my 23 cents ;-)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> -p<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >> > Michel,<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > We'll definitely do that. I think we'll tie it in with the<br>
>>> >> > distillation of dialogues over the next few weeks, so that the<br>
>>> >> > categorization attempts to reflect what is coming out of these<br>
>>> >> > discussions we are starting.<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > So far, your categorizations are definitely good basic descriptions,<br>
>>> >> > Michel. �Thanks very much for putting this page together.<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Michel Bauwens<br>
>>> >> > <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >> >> Dear Sam,<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> and others,<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> I have tried to categorize projects 'by sector', to the best of my<br>
>>> >> >> ability,<br>
>>> >> >> but I'd be happy if someone can go throug the main list, and add new<br>
>>> >> >> subsectors for those I was not able to place easily,<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> both general list and sectoral one are below,<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> source: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure</a><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Projects to decentralize/distribute the internet:<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Appleseed [2] - distributed social network<br>
>>> >> >> Bitcoin, a decentralized internet currency.<br>
>>> >> >> Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where users<br>
>>> >> >> can run<br>
>>> >> >> their own federated �pods�, thus owning their personal data and<br>
>>> >> >> directly<br>
>>> >> >> controlling what is shared with who.<br>
>>> >> >> The Dot-P2P Project, an alternative DNS hierarchy that resists<br>
>>> >> >> censorship.<br>
>>> >> >> The Freedom Box initiated by Eben Moglen and the Freedom Box<br>
>>> >> >> Foundation:<br>
>>> >> >> independent plug-in server<br>
>>> >> >> GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking that does<br>
>>> >> >> not<br>
>>> >> >> use<br>
>>> >> >> any centralized or otherwise trusted services<br>
>>> >> >> GNU Social [3]<br>
>>> >> >> LittleShoot is a new web-based p2p file sharing site founded by one<br>
>>> >> >> of<br>
>>> >> >> the<br>
>>> >> >> creators of LimeWire that could live up to its pedigree<br>
>>> >> >> Lorea [4] - distributed social networks, already running on 10<br>
>>> >> >> networks<br>
>>> >> >> One Social Web [5] - distributed social network using xmpp<br>
>>> >> >> One Swarm [6]- F2F (friend2friend) P2P sharing; a new peer-to-peer<br>
>>> >> >> tool<br>
>>> >> >> that<br>
>>> >> >> provides users with explicit control over their privacy by letting<br>
>>> >> >> them<br>
>>> >> >> determine how data is shared<br>
>>> >> >> Open BTS: working on a new kind of cellular network that can be<br>
>>> >> >> installed<br>
>>> >> >> and operated at about 1/10 the cost of current technologies, but<br>
>>> >> >> that<br>
>>> >> >> will<br>
>>> >> >> still be compatible with most of the handsets that are already in<br>
>>> >> >> the<br>
>>> >> >> market.<br>
>>> >> >> Open Media Vault [7]<br>
>>> >> >> Open Moko, A project to create a 'free' or open source Open Mobile<br>
>>> >> >> Telephony<br>
>>> >> >> platform.<br>
>>> >> >> Open PGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which gain<br>
>>> >> >> authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-<br>
>>> >> >> maintained<br>
>>> >> >> keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority system<br>
>>> >> >> that<br>
>>> >> >> can be<br>
>>> >> >> centrally compromised.<br>
>>> >> >> Open Storage Pod, [8] open hardware project, small cubes to store<br>
>>> >> >> terabytes<br>
>>> >> >> Open WRT [9]- GNU/Linux based free firmware for gateways and<br>
>>> >> >> routers.<br>
>>> >> >> Own Cloud, data storage project from the wider KDE community<br>
>>> >> >> Retro Share [10] - secure communications with friends<br>
>>> >> >> Seeks Project [11] - "social websearch"<br>
>>> >> >> Sovereign Computing Group [12] - similar project to Freedom Box,<br>
>>> >> >> with a<br>
>>> >> >> very<br>
>>> >> >> interesting Manifesto.<br>
>>> >> >> Sparkle Share, [13] open source 'dropbox' replacement<br>
>>> >> >> Status.Net is a microblogging system that allows users to run their<br>
>>> >> >> own<br>
>>> >> >> Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other systems.<br>
>>> >> >> The Tahoe Least-Authority File System, a highly fault-tolerant,<br>
>>> >> >> secure<br>
>>> >> >> internet filesystem.<br>
>>> >> >> The Tor Project, an anonymizing overlay network.<br>
>>> >> >> Unhosted: "Unhosted is a project for strengthening free software<br>
>>> >> >> against<br>
>>> >> >> hosted software. With our protocol, a website is only source code.<br>
>>> >> >> Dynamic<br>
>>> >> >> data is encrypted and decentralised, to per-user storage nodes. This<br>
>>> >> >> benefits free software, as well as scalability, robustness, and<br>
>>> >> >> online<br>
>>> >> >> privacy."<br>
>>> >> >> YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to build<br>
>>> >> >> a<br>
>>> >> >> distributed index.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] Distributed Technologies by Sector<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Currencies<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Bitcoin, a decentralized internet currency.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Filesharing and Storage<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> LittleShoot is a new web-based p2p file sharing site founded by one<br>
>>> >> >> of<br>
>>> >> >> the<br>
>>> >> >> creators of LimeWire that could live up to its pedigree<br>
>>> >> >> Open Storage Pod, [14] open hardware project, small cubes to store<br>
>>> >> >> terabytes<br>
>>> >> >> Own Cloud, data storage project from the wider KDE community<br>
>>> >> >> The Tahoe Least-Authority File System, a highly fault-tolerant,<br>
>>> >> >> secure<br>
>>> >> >> internet filesystem.<br>
>>> >> >> Unhosted: "Unhosted is a project for strengthening free software<br>
>>> >> >> against<br>
>>> >> >> hosted software. With our protocol, a website is only source code.<br>
>>> >> >> Dynamic<br>
>>> >> >> data is encrypted and decentralised, to per-user storage nodes. This<br>
>>> >> >> benefits free software, as well as scalability, robustness, and<br>
>>> >> >> online<br>
>>> >> >> privacy."<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Hardware<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> The Freedom Box initiated by Eben Moglen and the Freedom Box<br>
>>> >> >> Foundation:<br>
>>> >> >> independent plug-in server<br>
>>> >> >> Sovereign Computing Group [15] - similar project to Freedom Box,<br>
>>> >> >> with a<br>
>>> >> >> very<br>
>>> >> >> interesting Manifesto.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Network Computing<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> For the most fully distributed Peer to Peer Computer Networks at<br>
>>> >> >> present,<br>
>>> >> >> please check out Tribler�;Peerple�; Wipeer<br>
>>> >> >> Research into more fully distributed P2P systems for the future:<br>
>>> >> >> Chord,<br>
>>> >> >> CX<br>
>>> >> >> Project, Farsite, Globe Project, Oceanstore, Pastry<br>
>>> >> >> Decentralized P2P software programs are monitored and indexed here;<br>
>>> >> >> Flud<br>
>>> >> >> maintains a list of Distributed Internet-based Backup Systemssuch as<br>
>>> >> >> Tahoe<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Social Networks<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Appleseed [16] - distributed social network<br>
>>> >> >> Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where users<br>
>>> >> >> can run<br>
>>> >> >> their own federated �pods�, thus owning their personal data and<br>
>>> >> >> directly<br>
>>> >> >> controlling what is shared with who.<br>
>>> >> >> GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking that does<br>
>>> >> >> not<br>
>>> >> >> use<br>
>>> >> >> any centralized or otherwise trusted services<br>
>>> >> >> GNU Social [17]<br>
>>> >> >> Lorea [18] - distributed social networks, already running on 10<br>
>>> >> >> networks<br>
>>> >> >> One Social Web [19] - distributed social network using xmpp<br>
>>> >> >> One Swarm [20]- F2F (friend2friend) P2P sharing; a new peer-to-peer<br>
>>> >> >> tool<br>
>>> >> >> that provides users with explicit control over their privacy by<br>
>>> >> >> letting<br>
>>> >> >> them<br>
>>> >> >> determine how data is shared<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] P2P Searching<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> List of Distributed Search Engines; [21]<br>
>>> >> >> Seeks Project [22] - "social websearch"<br>
>>> >> >> YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to build<br>
>>> >> >> a<br>
>>> >> >> distributed index.<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> [edit] Virtual Worlds<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Peer to Peer Virtual Worlds: VastPark, Solipsis, Vast; see also:<br>
>>> >> >> Multiverse<br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Venessa Miemis<br>
>>> >> >> <<a href="mailto:venessamiemis@gmail.com">venessamiemis@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >> >>><br>
>>> >> >>> just wondering your impression of this post, in terms of the 'what<br>
>>> >> >>> we<br>
>>> >> >>> need' conversation -<br>
>>> >> >>> The Libre Web Application Stack<br>
>>> >> >>><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> --<br>
>>> >> >> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>� -<br>
>>> >> >> <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>>> >> >><br>
>>> >> >> Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a>; Discuss:<br>
>>> >> >> <a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank">http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation</a><br>
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