Dear Sam,<br><br>copying two more union-p2p friends on this dialogue,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Thanks Mark,<br>
<br>
This a long-term perspective/investment. Based on an ideas first<br>
articulated to me by Richard Schulte of Flywheel Tech Collective, who<br>
is copied on this email, the idea is to work with Unions to start<br>
building worker-owned cooperatives of various types, especially based<br>
around production and design of open source technologies/software.<br>
Mark, I copied you because I know that you've been in dialogue with<br>
Unions right here in Michigan for years. I wondered if you might know<br>
of some Union folks here in Michigan that might be candidates for this<br>
type of thing?<br>
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On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Dilley <<a href="mailto:markwdilley@gmail.com">markwdilley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sam �- thank you for sending this out what seems so many days ago - I have been following this pretty keenly and am curious about the title of your email "+ Unions and P2P alternatives"<br>
><br>
> open ears from anyone here.<br>
><br>
> Best, Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 19Feb2011, at 5:19 PM, Samuel Rose wrote:<br>
><br>
>> "What's happening in Wisconsin is not complicated. At the beginning of<br>
>> this year, the state was on course to end 2011 with a budget surplus<br>
>> of $120 million. As Ezra Klein explained, newly elected GOP Governor<br>
>> Scott Walker then " signed two business tax breaks and a conservative<br>
>> health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax revenues (among<br>
>> other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it turned a<br>
>> surplus into a deficit."<br>
>><br>
>> Walker then used the deficit he'd created as the justification for<br>
>> assaulting his state's public employees. He used a law cooked up by a<br>
>> right-wing advocacy group called the American Legislative Exchange<br>
>> Council (ALEC). ALEC likes to fly beneath the radar, but I described<br>
>> the organization in a 2005 article as "the connective tissue that<br>
>> links state legislators with right-wing think tanks, leading anti-tax<br>
>> activists and corporate money." Similar laws are on the table in Ohio<br>
>> and Indiana.<br>
>><br>
>> Walker's bill would strip public employees of the right to bargain<br>
>> collectively for anything but higher pay (and would cap the amount of<br>
>> wage hikes they might end up gaining in negotiations). His intentions<br>
>> are clear -- before assuming office, Walker threatened to decertify<br>
>> the state's employees' unions (until he discovered that the governor<br>
>> doesn't have that power)."<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/479560/12_things_you_need_to_know_about_the_uprising_in_wisconsin/" target="_blank">http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/479560/12_things_you_need_to_know_about_the_uprising_in_wisconsin/</a><br>
>> _______<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Aso worth reading:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chance-to-reflect.html" target="_blank">http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chance-to-reflect.html</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ________________________________________________________________________<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I think the time is here to start talking with people about<br>
>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/The_Political_Principles_of_Peer-to-Peer_Advocacy" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/The_Political_Principles_of_Peer-to-Peer_Advocacy</a><br>
>> here, in the Industrial Midwest (which includes WI)<br>
>><br>
>> One simple way to route around party politics is to give people a<br>
>> direct p2p way to actively reflect existing poltics as we saw in<br>
>> iceland with <a href="http://skuggathing.is/portal" target="_blank">http://skuggathing.is/portal</a> based on<br>
>> <a href="https://github.com/rbjarnason/open-active-democracy" target="_blank">https://github.com/rbjarnason/open-active-democracy</a><br>
>><br>
>> Another parallel approach is to start applying collective decision<br>
>> making and pooling of resources directly to problems people are<br>
>> addressing. In addition, creating cooperatives, supporting alternative<br>
>> currencies when appropriate.<br>
>><br>
>> Unions in all of these states have resources, including pension funds,<br>
>> that they could invest directly in worker-owned cooperative companies,<br>
>> as has been discussed by Richard Schulte of flywheeltechcollective in<br>
>> the past. Some of them have expressed interest in doing this. These<br>
>> kinds of changes for entities like unions are long term changes and<br>
>> investments, and will take time. However, I think every year that goes<br>
>> by makes more and more on the left receptive to p2p alternatives.<br>
>><br>
>> If people are interested in working on P2P political advocacy and<br>
>> approaches in 2011-2012, let's talk here and continue to build towards<br>
>> thing people can really use in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan,<br>
>> Eastern Europe, South America, etc<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> --<br>
>> Sam Rose<br>
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>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human<br>
>> ambition." - Carl Sagan<br>
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