thanks Denis, will have a look,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Denis Postle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.postle@btinternet.com">d.postle@btinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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that I mentioned in a previous message. I believe it sheds light
on a wide range of difficulties we may have in collaborative work,
on and off line.<br>
<br>
If it raises questions I'll be happy to deal with them, however
I'll be offline until Monday am.<br><font color="#888888">
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Denis</font></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 10/02/2011 16:37, Michel Bauwens wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">thank you Denis, you're right that obviously some
perverse relational dynamics are going on that go beyond
individual differences and make people, myself included,
misunderstand and be misunderstood, in an iterative way ...<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Denis
Postle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.postle@btinternet.com" target="_blank">d.postle@btinternet.com</a>></span>
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On 10/02/2011 13:35, Michel Bauwens wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Silke has asked several of us to
refrain from further communication, so I have sent a
reply privately to Christian,<br>
</blockquote>
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This has the virtue� of opening up a space where other
perspectives might be of assistance.<br>
<br>
This is this a research group so I'll free free to jump with
an outline of a piece of research that, improprieties apart,
can account for some of the miscommunication and
disagreement that has been prevalent here lately.<br>
<br>
A well validated piece of research, the Kirton Adaption
Innovation [KAI] scale points to a spectrum of Creative
Styles ranging from Adaptive to Innovative. The detail of
the scale doesn't need to concern us here. What matters is
that while the KAI says nothing about the value or amount of
creativity a person manifests, it has a lot to offer about
different approaches/styles through which we prefer to be
creative, and how we view or engage in change.<br>
<br>
Headlines: (keep in mind that the distribution in the
researched populations is a bell curve)<br>
<br>
People with an Adaptive style prefer evolution of the
present as a form of change and seek to work within settled
boundaries. They come up with few but realistic ideas and
projects that are often implemented. They are often found
settled near centres of power/influence.<br>
<br>
People with a strong Innovative style tend to be outsiders
or on the margins of institutions and prefer fresh starts
and out of the box thinking. They are commonly prolific with
lots of not very well grounded ideas, which they have
difficulty in getting implemented. They may face
considerable disappointment and rejection.<br>
<br>
Why might this be relevant here? One of the outcomes of the
KAI work is that it shows that people who are 10 points away
from each other in style will need to take care to
understand and be understood, and that people 2O points
apart will likely see each other as aliens, wrong,
impossible, problematic.<br>
<br>
As a high innovator who's experienced enough rejection and
disappointment I have moved, partly due the KAI perspective
to respect for the more adaptive person's capacity to hold
and sustain continuity, something I find hard to do.
Conversely, organizations that become too dependent on
Adaptive creativity tend to eventually slip into stagnation.
The task for people with a highly adaptive style is to find
respect for the alien innovators who want to overturn
everything that is settled.<br>
<br>
I hope this helps account for some of the current distance
between list participants here.<br>
<br>
Our server is down at the moment, when it is available, I'll
post an introduction to the KAI.<br>
<br>
Denis<br>
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Michel<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:02
PM, Christian Siefkes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christian@siefkes.net" target="_blank">christian@siefkes.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On 02/10/2011 01:28 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
> Sorry Massimo, I can only judge from what I
see on this list, and I have a<br>
> responsibility to my friends to warn them
what they're getting into; once<br>
> they engage, it's their responsiblity, but
they deserve a warning,<br>
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<div>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Massimo
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<div>> � � the same time you send emails to
your greek friends warning them I am a<br>
> � � sectarian always looking for a fight
while saying "massimo is part of<br>
> � � the radical set that always judges
others to be coopted, and always<br>
> � � calling for struggle, with little
regard for constructive altenatives,<br>
> � � and also little regard of whether a
struggle can actually win ... People<br>
> � � like him, and his associate martin
pedersen usually like to act as<br>
> � � troublemakers during conferences and
such ... . "<br>
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Did you really write that, Michel?? I must say,
I'm shocked. I sometimes<br>
disagree with what Massimo and Martin are saying,
but I've not the slightest<br>
idea what made you label them as "troublemakers".
Nor why you felt to had to<br>
send "warnings" to others. Surely we can do much,
much, much better than<br>
that in our interactions with each other...<br>
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