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    On 10/02/2011 16:37, Michel Bauwens wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTinGaXhn_9dysvHYOSTDjh58xijgb4TkZxfQmuvK@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">thank you Denis, you're right that obviously some
      perverse relational dynamics are going on that go beyond
      individual differences and make people, myself included,
      misunderstand and be misunderstood, in an iterative way ...<br>
      <br>
      Michel<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Denis
        Postle <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:d.postle@btinternet.com">d.postle@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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              <br>
              On 10/02/2011 13:35, Michel Bauwens wrote:
              <blockquote type="cite">Silke has asked several of us to
                refrain from further communication, so I have sent a
                reply privately to Christian,<br>
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            This has the virtue&nbsp; of opening up a space where other
            perspectives might be of assistance.<br>
            <br>
            This is this a research group so I'll free free to jump with
            an outline of a piece of research that, improprieties apart,
            can account for some of the miscommunication and
            disagreement that has been prevalent here lately.<br>
            <br>
            A well validated piece of research, the Kirton Adaption
            Innovation [KAI] scale points to a spectrum of Creative
            Styles ranging from Adaptive to Innovative. The detail of
            the scale doesn't need to concern us here. What matters is
            that while the KAI says nothing about the value or amount of
            creativity a person manifests, it has a lot to offer about
            different approaches/styles through which we prefer to be
            creative, and how we view or engage in change.<br>
            <br>
            Headlines: (keep in mind that the distribution in the
            researched populations is a bell curve)<br>
            <br>
            People with an Adaptive style prefer evolution of the
            present as a form of change and seek to work within settled
            boundaries. They come up with few but realistic ideas and
            projects that are often implemented. They are often found
            settled near centres of power/influence.<br>
            <br>
            People with a strong Innovative style tend to be outsiders
            or on the margins of institutions and prefer fresh starts
            and out of the box thinking. They are commonly prolific with
            lots of not very well grounded ideas, which they have
            difficulty in getting implemented. They may face
            considerable disappointment and rejection.<br>
            <br>
            Why might this be relevant here? One of the outcomes of the
            KAI work is that it shows that people who are 10 points away
            from each other in style will need to take care to
            understand and be understood, and that people 2O points
            apart will likely see each other as aliens, wrong,
            impossible, problematic.<br>
            <br>
            As a high innovator who's experienced enough rejection and
            disappointment I have moved, partly due the KAI perspective
            to respect for the more adaptive person's capacity to hold
            and sustain continuity, something I find hard to do.
            Conversely, organizations that become too dependent on
            Adaptive creativity tend to eventually slip into stagnation.
            The task for people with a highly adaptive style is to find
            respect for the alien innovators who want to overturn
            everything that is settled.<br>
            <br>
            I hope this helps account for some of the current distance
            between list participants here.<br>
            <br>
            Our server is down at the moment, when it is available, I'll
            post an introduction to the KAI.<br>
            <br>
            Denis<br>
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                  Michel<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:02
                    PM, Christian Siefkes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:christian@siefkes.net"
                        target="_blank">christian@siefkes.net</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div>On 02/10/2011 01:28 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
                        &gt; Sorry Massimo, I can only judge from what I
                        see on this list, and I have a<br>
                        &gt; responsibility to my friends to warn them
                        what they're getting into; once<br>
                        &gt; they engage, it's their responsiblity, but
                        they deserve a warning,<br>
                      </div>
                      [...]<br>
                      <div>&gt; On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Massimo
                        De Angelis &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:commoning@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">commoning@gmail.com</a><br>
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                      &gt; &lt;mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:commoning@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">commoning@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                      [...]<br>
                      <div>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; the same time you send emails to
                        your greek friends warning them I am a<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; sectarian always looking for a fight
                        while saying "massimo is part of<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; the radical set that always judges
                        others to be coopted, and always<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; calling for struggle, with little
                        regard for constructive altenatives,<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; and also little regard of whether a
                        struggle can actually win ... People<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; like him, and his associate martin
                        pedersen usually like to act as<br>
                        &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; troublemakers during conferences and
                        such ... . "<br>
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                      Did you really write that, Michel?? I must say,
                      I'm shocked. I sometimes<br>
                      disagree with what Massimo and Martin are saying,
                      but I've not the slightest<br>
                      idea what made you label them as "troublemakers".
                      Nor why you felt to had to<br>
                      send "warnings" to others. Surely we can do much,
                      much, much better than<br>
                      that in our interactions with each other...<br>
                      <br>
                      Best regards<br>
                      &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Christian<br>
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