On the request of Silke, I'm not sending this to the commoning list,<br><br>but as a not to be forwarded reply to Christian Siefkes, to this list.<br><br>as you may now, communication between me and martin pedersen and massimo de angelis have not been peaceful lately, and things have not gotten better, by mistakenly copying Massimo on a private assessment that I send to our Greek friends, whom I asked to cooperate with Massimo, but at the same time warning them of what could happen, so that they would be on their guard<br>
<br>you are free to judge me for this mistake, AND for my assessment, but it was, and is, what I think, based on my experience, and I can't change that, we all experience things as we experience them, through our own personal biases and filters and reactivity,<br>
<br>so, here is my response to Christian Siefkes, who was shocked by my assessment, understandably so,<br><br>this is just, 'for the record', and I expect Silke, of the commoning list, to mediate in this conflict, but I expect that healing the antagonism is going to require staying out of each other's way for a while,<br>
<br>Michel<br><br>Dear Christian<br><br>SIlke asked me not to answer, but since you ask me, I guess I have to
share already, but provisionally, just to yout; however, it is the one I
would have send to the commoning list<br><br>Yes, I did sent this private letter, and
the googlemail demon made me click on massimo's name, talk of a freudian
slip; of course, I am not at all proud of this; now I wish I would make
a different assessment, but this is exactly how I think of it, based on
my experience<br>
<br>but, this was a private assessment, to one person, so that they
would not get embroiled in the same process as I here, in other words,
to avoid what is happening here; this is my duty to my friends: I invite
them to this dialogue, but they must know that if they are attacked,
not too take it personally; "it's just a matter of style of a particular
group of people and you have to know what to expect"<br>
<br>but please note, <br><br>- that what I was doing
was actually opening a communication line with greek activists, so the
context I was aiming for was to help both massimo to continue his
announced query, while wanting to avoid the communication issues that
plagued this list; so the aim was exactly that they could
communicate, without getting enervated as they would be aware of this
style beforehand, and think of it not as a problem, but as something to
be aware of, so as to avoid it; <br><br>- it is one letter to one
person, not a
smear campaign to destroy a person or seeking harm; there is nothing
systematic to it, one individual warning; in fact, throughout this time,
I have been doing the opposite, i.e. promoting the work of massimo and
martin, see next paragraph<br>
<br>- throughout this exchange, and for the last weeks and months,� I
have continued,
despite the animosity between us, to blog, wikify,� facebook and twitter
the views of both Martin and Massimo, making them reach audiences they
may not have reached on their own, since they are likely to reach a
different one; this is not the attitude of an enemy, nor an indication
of a smear campaign; but rather of someone who takes their arguments
seriously, and seeks to make them known to even more people; this can be
easily verified in the p2p foundation resources or by checking search
engines<div class="im"><br><br>- I do not
object to their views, even as I not share them, only to the
caricuturing of views they do not agree with, such as apparently, mine;
and again, I'm not the only one that has complained to be at the
receiving end of such style of communication<br><br></div>So, don't ask
me to be sorry to share with my friends my assessment of my experience;
and to give them a warning so that they can avoid experiencing the same;
that this should be shared accidentally is an error of my part;� I'll
let you judge about the sharing of private mail yourself; but given the
circumstances, I do not hold this at all against Massimo, I can fully
understand how it must feel to get something like that: I would be
similarly shocked<br>
<br>however, I am also shocked of hearing I would bulldoze local
communities to impose them fiberoptic cables, am opposed to the politics
of indigenous people and what not; I sent my assessment of my true (in
the sense of subjective) experience privately; I have to get these
character assanisations over a public list. Frankly, I would prefer
Martin and Massimo would say true bad things in private, rather than to
have to hear such� false things in a public forum.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>� - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br>
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