Many thanks Stephane,<br><br>I have created a overview page at <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open-Universal_Digital_Currency_Project">http://p2pfoundation.net/Open-Universal_Digital_Currency_Project</a><br><br>Dear Sepp, could you have a look, present this project and eventually put it into context of other projects in this related space?<br>
<br>I think the innovative part here is that it is directly linked to the mechanism of the universal dividend, and this is why it's particularly worth supporting,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:45 PM, St�phane Laborde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laborde_stephane@yahoo.fr">laborde_stephane@yahoo.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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You can present Open-UDC with :<br>
<br>
General presentation : <a href="http://www.open-udc.org/en/start" target="_blank">http://www.open-udc.org/en/start</a><br>
<br>
And Money Rules : <a href="http://www.open-udc.org/en/money_rules" target="_blank">http://www.open-udc.org/en/money_rules</a><br>
<br>
You can add that Open-UDC go with a a progressive goal following
three steps :<br>
<br>
1) Implementation with centralised server<br>
2) Implementation with hierarchical organisation<br>
3) Implementation with P2P System<br>
<br>
Money rules are a money system named Open-UDC. The technical system
in charge of the money rules is independant of Open-UDC and named
Open-UDS.<br>
<pre cols="72">St�phane Laborde
9, rue Ganneron, 75018 PARIS
Tel. 09 54 87 03 18
Mobile : 06 64 42 25 99</pre>
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Le 08/02/2011 06:36, Michel Bauwens a �crit�:
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Cher Stephane,<br>
<br>
If you have any non-technical text on this, I'd like to announce
it on the p2p foundation blog,<br>
<br>
Un grand merci!<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Michel
Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail..com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">didn't know that one! will definitely
check out and add to <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money</a>,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Michel</font>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM,
olivier auber <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:olivierauber2@gmail.com" target="_blank">olivierauber2@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Ok!<br>
<br>
J'oubliais, La Th�orie Relative de la Monnaie (TRM)
est la base du d�veloppement du <br>
<h1>Open-Universal Digital Currency project</h1>
<a href="http://www.open-udc.org/en/start" target="_blank">http://www.open-udc.org/en/start</a><br>
<br>
Et �a c'est en anglais, entre autres...
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<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/8 Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">thanks
a lot Olivier, if you hear from the english
translation at some point, thanks for letting
me know!
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 8,
2011 at 12:19 PM, olivier auber <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:olivierauber2@gmail.com" target="_blank">olivierauber2@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Bonjour
matinal Michel,<br>
<br>
Sur ce sujet, j'attire ton attention
sur un auteur fran�ais � l'origine
d'une tr�s int�ressante "th�orie
relative de la monnaie" qui permet de
calculer tr�s exactement diff�rentes
choses, notamment l'expansion de la
masse mon�taire conduisant � une
�conomie durable, ainsi que le montant
du Dividende Universel qui serait le
vecteur de cette expansion.<br>
<br>
Il s'appelle St�phane Laborde.<br>
<br>
Le livre est ici : <a href="http://www.creationmonetaire.info/2010/11/theorie-relative-de-la-monnaie-10.html" target="_blank">http://www.creationmonetaire.info/2010/11/theorie-relative-de-la-monnaie-10.html</a><br>
Le blog l� : <a href="http://www.creationmonetaire.info/" target="_blank">http://www.creationmonetaire.info/</a><br>
<br>
Malheureusement, tout cela n'existe
qu'en fran�ais pour le moment.<br>
Un traduction en anglais est en cours,
je crois.<br>
<br>
Amicalement<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/8
Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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Dear Sepp,<br>
<br>
because the discussion is
largely technical, this is all
I can do, but perhaps you can
add an extra comment?<br>
<br>
also, if you are in contact
with Marc, please give him a
chance to say something about
the evolution of the bibo
project since december 2009,<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
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<p>In December 2009, Sepp
Hasslberger <a>introduced
to us</a> Bibo, a proposed
standard for stable
currencies, that would
replace the current
inherently unstable banking
money system.</p>
<p>This article has become our
most comment rich article,
in particular through a
recurring debate between one
of the Bibo co-authors Marc,
and Ardeshir Mehta.</p>
<p>Ardeshir has written an
article that challenges one
of the main points of
monetary reformers, i.e.
that the current system
leads to the infinite
creation of debt through
compound interest.</p>
<p>You can find it <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/DebunkingTheDebt-VirusHypothesis.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>The context:</p>
<p><i>�Currently, most if not
all money is loaned into
existence by banks, and is
thus based on
interest-bearing debt.
There is no question that
neither interest nor
debt-based money are good
for society, and I have
written denouncing both
debt and interest
elsewhere. However, there
is a fairly common thesis,
based on the fact that
money is loaned into
existence as
interest-bearing debt,
that if new loans are not
continually being issued
in ever-increasing
amounts, enough money will
not be created to pay the
interest on existing
loans; and as a result, at
least some those loans
will be defaulted upon,
resulting in inevitable
foreclosures. �</i></p>
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