hi Gordon, are you following the Strata conference, about large scale science collaboration, which seems aligned to your current concerns?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Gordon Cook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cook@cookreport.com">cook@cookreport.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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This network connects to cleveland... did ohio get anything in the NTI A Btop grants?<br>
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The slide dec looks like they will allow a mixture of commercial and schools and libraries to connect. This is the so called internet 2 community anchor institution network<br>
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I'd like to see a national public optical internet connect p2p and home3 brew etc etc<br>
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This stuff is just beginning. It looks promising.<br>
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On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Samuel Rose wrote:<br>
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> Michel, I really agree. As I said sometime last month, I hope that<br>
> P2PF might become some form of political movement here in the<br>
> industrial midwest that can be taken seriously (as opposed to<br>
> progressive groups that are dismissed and marginalised, and<br>
> neo-liberal politics that basically puts political activity in service<br>
> of big corporations).<br>
><br>
> Transition movement is a great example. I've talked here locally and<br>
> in Cleveland about the idea of a P2P political network (*not* "party")<br>
> and there is definitely interest. The idea is that P2P politics is<br>
> part of the whole of existence, not a division of human activity. We<br>
> can decide together anywhere, at any time, to do anything within our<br>
> abilities to do it. More transitionally and closer to existing<br>
> bureaucracies, we can also start using tools and system like "shadow<br>
> government" to start keeping track and feedback loops of what is<br>
> happening.<br>
><br>
> Over in Wisconsin, Sheldon Rampton and Co.have also made some serious<br>
> progress in coordinated social transparency with<br>
> <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=SourceWatch" target="_blank">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=SourceWatch</a> and nearer to<br>
> home <a href="http://arborwiki.org" target="_blank">http://arborwiki.org</a> is an example of a way for people to engage<br>
> based on the place that they are in. The global network that is P2PF<br>
> is a missing component that I see that could aid in bridging the gaps<br>
> in global/local organizing (realizing of course that there would be<br>
> much work and building to be done to make that happen).<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> hi Sam,<br>
>><br>
>> I agree, with the geo-local focus, but it is not enough, we also need<br>
>> globa-local forms of popular organisation ... I think the transition<br>
>> movement is exemplary in that regard, combining strong local focus with a<br>
>> global movement<br>
>><br>
>> Michel<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org">dennis.hamilton@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> I am fascinated by the current explorations concerning social media and<br>
>>>> how community formation and spontaneity are enabled. I find a great deal to<br>
>>>> digest, and much thoughtful analysis in the recent threads.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Although it is not material to the clarification of weak and strong ties<br>
>>>> as a false dichotomy, this one passage brought me up short:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> " ...what is destroying our opportunities for individuality and<br>
>>>> creativity, subverting us from realizing our human potential is not that we<br>
>>>> are tweeting about trivialities, but that the governance of our planet has<br>
>>>> been taken away from us."<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The hyperbole is appealing, but I wonder if there is something more<br>
>>>> important here. When, if ever, have "we" possessed the governance of our<br>
>>>> planet? Indeed, what can it possibly mean to give ontological standing to<br>
>>>> the notion of planetary governance and suggest that it has ever existed?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I ask this because is it perhaps more the case that we have before us<br>
>>>> the opportunity to gain something, not that we ever lost it.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - Dennis<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I see you point and it is a good one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> There are some ways in which we lost at least some freedom over our<br>
>>> environments over time as the industrial revolution emerged. I can<br>
>>> think of the example of a farmer in Canada, who's ancestors came to<br>
>>> Canada generations ago to seek freedom from tyranny in Europe, and who<br>
>>> is now subject to legal system manipulations from companies like<br>
>>> Monsanto that threaten to take away his livelihood and force him to<br>
>>> buy and use products he never wanted to use in his operations (because<br>
>>> their patented strains of corn contaminated his and Monsanto came out<br>
>>> and discovered this)<br>
>>><br>
>>> For me, the meat of the article is the idea that weak ties and strong<br>
>>> ties is the wrong dilemma to focus on. I think this is true. I think<br>
>>> we need ties that are geo-physical local *and* "network" local (people<br>
>>> around the world that have any degree of connection with you that you<br>
>>> at least become aware of them). Fracturing and isolation weaken the<br>
>>> value people can get out of all of their connections.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
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>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-foundation-bounces@lists.ourproject.org</a>] On Behalf Of Michel<br>
>>>> Bauwens<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/2011-February/000401.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/2011-February/000401.html</a>><br>
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