thanks for your perspective Robin, I'm excerpting Andreas piece in a few days ...<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:56 PM, robin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robokow@gmail.com">robokow@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Great! A marxist approach to Zeitgeist. It could go a lot deeper but<br>
it isn't that bad.<br>
<br>
It is missing critique on the conspiracy theories that the first 2<br>
movies have spread, its use of bad-taste propaganda techniques in all<br>
movies and, possibly connected, an analysis on how this has spread in<br>
the first place - but it is 1 of the first coherent articles I have<br>
read<br>
<br>
*One* of the reasons why I think it gained so much ground is the cheap<br>
and poorly researched focus on banks and debt-creation as an<br>
explanation for our suffering; the same hollow rhetorics as nazism but<br>
different in terms of where fingers are pointing to. Another is that<br>
young people have always been bored with the system and because of the<br>
vacuum of good critique they are happy there is someome telling them<br>
we can escape.<br>
<br>
For some more about this check this:<br>
* <a href="http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist-addendum/part-one/page/8/" target="_blank">http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist-addendum/part-one/page/8/</a><br>
* <a href="http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgiest-addendum" target="_blank">http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgiest-addendum</a><br>
<br>
And also the article misses critique on the state-centered approach of<br>
Zeitgeist/ Venus but what else can you expect from a Maxist?<br>
<br>
I take it that people on this list know that Marxism doesn't care so<br>
much about the means. It is the end that matters? Funny enough the<br>
article is arguing the same thing:<br>
<br>
"The new �Zeitgeist-movie propagates a communism in its best sense,<br>
and without even mentioning Marx � be it because of tactical reasons,<br>
be it because of a kind of narrow-mindedness (*which does not hurt as<br>
long as the message stays clear*)."<br>
<br>
Put it on the blog I would say if you want something that analyses<br>
Zeitgeist/ Venus. I don't think I have the time and energy at the<br>
moment to do something that I can be satisfied with, and I am sure<br>
others will pick it up soon, since the third movie will be getting<br>
even more popular.<br>
<br>
Robin.<br>
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