Dear Robin,<br><br>I think you may find Clare Graves interesting, see <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Clare_Graves_on_his_Levels_of_Existence_psychology">http://p2pfoundation.net/Clare_Graves_on_his_Levels_of_Existence_psychology</a>, but beware of the more reactionary interpreations that can be made of this, such as with Don Beck's Spiral Dynamics or Ken Wilber's Integral Psychology (nevertheless, Wilber's overview is interesting reading)<br>
<br>But essentially what these approaches do is to recognize that humans generally move through quite recognizable changes that have corresponding value systems, and that social/cultural systems are dominated by people congregating about a particular model, dominant at the time. I still like Up from Eden from Wilber to explain this process. The problem, i.e. the reactionary danger, is that once you recognize that humans have different types of complexities, it's easy to become elitist. On the other hand, the equipotential approach I would advocate, recognizes that we have many different lines of development, and that we can have a social system which allows people to connect their 'best aspects', in collective endeavours where they are the most useful. With this approach, hierarchising individuals becomes superfluous.<br>
<br>I recently discovered the Human Givens approach of� Joe Griffen and MIndsfield college, <a href="http://vimeo.com/754995">http://vimeo.com/754995</a>. I see this as the first clear recognition of the relational embeddedness of the human, in a social,ecological and socio-political framework.<br>
<br>You may want to check the material collated via <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Relational">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Relational</a> and <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Spirituality">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Spirituality</a><br>
<br>I personally like the work of John Heron and Jorge Ferrer, i.e. the participatory turn, most.<br><br>Sorry that no single source� comes up with that very important question. I wish I had a clearer vision on who has contributed to such a new vision of the human,<br>
<br>Contributions by readers much welcome.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:15 AM, robin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robokow@gmail.com">robokow@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Michel,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> could you describe in a little more detail, that 'scholar' and what he<br>
> should be thinking ?<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Ah, I found what I was looking for. I was referring to this blog post of yours:<br>
<a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/does-human-nature-need-to-change-for-a-p2p-transformation-to-occur/2010/07/31" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/does-human-nature-need-to-change-for-a-p2p-transformation-to-occur/2010/07/31</a><br>
<br>
I am wondering who within (political) philosophy said similar things,<br>
about "human nature" that transforms along with changes in our ethical<br>
believes and social practices.<br>
<br>
I don't think I ever read anything about that and would like to research more.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Robin.<br>
<br>
<br>
p.s.<br>
The comment on that blog-post is a nice example of a non-free ideology:<br>
"Naturism is the only (!) way for man (!) to become one with the world".<br>
Instead of: could be a way for people/ humanity/ to feel (more) in peace.<br>
<br>
And also: "they will enable mankind to one day live as pure and unaltered<br>
as Mother Nature intended"<br>
Who is this person to decide if I am as pure + unaltered as nature wants?<br>
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