Interesting!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ok, I get it, so there are people out there actually wanting to 'buy'<br>
> bitcoins, and I wasn't aware of that, and obviously, this needs to be bought<br>
> and expressed by another existing currency, hence the 'value'<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Yes, from what I can tell, *now* the best way to get bitcoins is to<br>
buy them. However, it seems based on reading online discussions that<br>
in the earliest days of bitcoin activity, that it was a bit easier to<br>
contribute your personal computer power to the network and "generate"<br>
coins. Now, it the calculations are over a year for a typical laptop<br>
(ref: <a href="http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php" target="_blank">http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php</a> )<br>
<br>
A whole history of trading can be viewed here: <a href="https://mtgox.com/trade/history" target="_blank">https://mtgox.com/trade/history</a><br>
<br>
Again, I think there is only one real issue with bitcoin: that it is a<br>
homogenous currency. I am looking at the idea of soliciting donations<br>
towards extending bitcoin software so that users may either issue new<br>
currency (with new rules), or participate in existing currencies all<br>
from the same protocol/software.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
> I 'got' it <g><br>
><br>
> By the way, alt.currency/credit commons expert Thomas Greco is in Chiang<br>
> Mai!<br>
><br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Sepp Hasslberger <<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">sepp@lastrega.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Basically Michel, the value of any commodity is determined by whether<br>
>> people believe it is of value.<br>
>> The fact that you can buy and sell something establishes a base-line value<br>
>> for it. The value is a balance between how much of the stuff is available,<br>
>> and how much demand there is for it from potential buyers. Economists called<br>
>> it the law of supply and demand.<br>
>> In the case of bitcoin, we are looking at a commodity (exchangeable<br>
>> electronic "coins") that is scarce - there are only so many coins in<br>
>> existence, and making more of them is a slow, difficult prcess - and for<br>
>> which there is a demand. People are looking around for some kind of means of<br>
>> exchange that can de-link them from the official currencies. Potentially, we<br>
>> have a great demand for bitcoins ... if the idea of using them as a means of<br>
>> payment ever really catches on. Even as it is, there is enough of a demand<br>
>> for bitcoins to "feel their scarcity", and thus, to make them valuable. A<br>
>> price is being set for bitcoins in exchange services. The price is entirely<br>
>> dependent on how badly people want bitcoins, and it seems that the price is<br>
>> on the upswing.<br>
>> This is really the same mechanism as with any kind of money. As long as<br>
>> there are people who want to use it to conduct their business (or to put<br>
>> away for future use), and as long as there is a restricted amount of it,<br>
>> money can be said to have value.<br>
>> The value of any commodity or any kind of money will go up if 1) more<br>
>> people want it or 2) some of it is destroyed or withdrawn from circulation,<br>
>> making it more scarce.<br>
>> Similarly, the value of any commodity or any kind of money will go down if<br>
>> 1) less people want it or 2) more of it is put into circulation, making it<br>
>> comparatively more abundant.<br>
><br>
><br>
>><br>
>> That is the mechanism that determines the value of money - ANY kind of<br>
>> money.<br>
>> Sepp<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"<br>
>> <a href="http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/" target="_blank">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.laleva.org" target="_blank">http://www.laleva.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://blog.hasslberger.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.hasslberger.com/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger</a><br>
>> <a href="http://twitter.com/healthsupreme" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/healthsupreme</a><br>
>> .<br>
>> On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> there are still basic aspects of bitcoin I don't understand<br>
>><br>
>> how can a self-invented coin have any value at all,<br>
>><br>
>> who determines that value?<br>
>><br>
>> what makes people accept that it has the value it says<br>
>><br>
>> which bank is willing to give me other types of money in exchange for that<br>
>> value?<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">sepp@lastrega.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Although I have misgivings about the stability of bitcoin, I support<br>
>>> > its<br>
>>> > use. (It's the only thing out there that is completely de-linked from<br>
>>> > official currencies and from things like precious metals, that is<br>
>>> > workable<br>
>>> > for more than just local exchange).<br>
>>> > To explain my perplexity on bitcoin stability, I quote from the site<br>
>>> > cyclonite linked:<br>
>>> > "How much is a Bitcoin worth?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > More all the time...<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > As you can see, over a 4 week period, recently...<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > The value of ฿1.00 BTC (one Bitcoin), went from US$0.06 to<br>
>>> > US$0.50 ...within only about 4 weeks. Yes... That was an 833%<br>
>>> > increase<br>
>>> > in it's value. Wow."<br>
>>> > (<a href="http://www.bitcoinme.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bitcoinme.com/</a>)<br>
>>> > For me, a currency that is to be widely used, should be stable. Stable<br>
>>> > means<br>
>>> > it doesn't go down in value, but it also doesn't go up in value<br>
>>> > excessively.<br>
>>> > It should be roughly keeping its value. Going up as much as bitcoin<br>
>>> > evidently does, is a form of instability that will bring disturbance to<br>
>>> > a<br>
>>> > marketplace using bitcoin as its means of exchange.<br>
>>><br>
>>> bitcoin does seem to have stabilized after that initial jump. I think<br>
>>> the initial jump was due to the network effect of how fast the current<br>
>>> group of adopters jumped on board and started using bitcoin.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Still, this is a of course a valid point. Although, the value increase<br>
>>> seems to have been mostly beneficial to the early adopters. But, I<br>
>>> could see how if the system stabilized, then a new wave of adopters<br>
>>> jumped on board, it could suddenly become very unbalanced for the<br>
>>> initial participants if various scenarios unfold.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Although, I am not sure *if* the bitcoin system would automatically<br>
>>> inflate in an exponential way each time a new wave of participants<br>
>>> joins the system.<br>
>>><br>
>>> One real potential problem is making sure that "honest nodes" control<br>
>>> the majority of CPU power. So far, so good. It won't be easy for<br>
>>> anyone to spoof this system. But, if a group of people wants to<br>
>>> intentionally attack the system, there could be problems. Bitcoin is a<br>
>>> good candidate for complex systems models as a means to put more<br>
>>> foresight into stability, health, etc<br>
>>><br>
>>> > This instability could and should be remedied by adjusting the target<br>
>>> > total<br>
>>> > of bitcoin creation with an algorithm that takes into account the<br>
>>> > number of<br>
>>> > active bitcoin users. As the number of users increases, the total<br>
>>> > target<br>
>>> > amount of bitcoins to be created (which currently is fixed at<br>
>>> > 21,000,000)<br>
>>> > should increase, slowly creeping up to accomodate the demand of new<br>
>>> > users<br>
>>> > for bitcoins, in a way to keep the value of one single coin roughly<br>
>>> > stable.<br>
>>> > I do not know whether the creators of bitcoin would be willing to do<br>
>>> > this.<br>
>>> > For me, such an adjustment will be necessary to take bitcoin from<br>
>>> > experimental status to widely-used alternative means of payment status.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sepp, this is a great point.<br>
>>><br>
>>> One of the nice things about bitcoin is that it is F/LOSS, so it is<br>
>>> ultimately fork-able. If bad decisions are made about the growth, the<br>
>>> project could be forked, a different governance scheme could be<br>
>>> implemented, etc.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I don't yet know enough about bitcoin to be 100% sure, but the system<br>
>>> at least for the time being does seem to have stabilized (it could<br>
>>> simply mean that participation has stabilized).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Bit coin claims:<br>
>>><br>
>>> "Once a predetermined number of coins have entered<br>
>>> circulation, the incentive can transition entirely to transaction fees<br>
>>> and be completely inflation<br>
>>> free."<br>
>>><br>
>>> And yes Michel, I will post this on the blog and in wiki :)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> > Kind regards<br>
>>> > Sepp<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Samuel Rose wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Cyclonite, personally I am ready to work with bitcoin today, although<br>
>>> > the rest of p2pf may not be, which I'll respect<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Cyclonite <<a href="mailto:cyclonite@safe-mail.net">cyclonite@safe-mail.net</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hi Guys,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I think there is some kind of misunderstanding here, you do not need to<br>
>>> > manually generate any kind of public/private keys as with OpenPGP.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > You can even sign up in a website as <a href="http://mybitcoin.com" target="_blank">mybitcoin.com</a> and start making or<br>
>>> > receiving donations.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > In my opinion the best available info for beginners is<br>
>>> > <a href="http://bitcoinme.com" target="_blank">http://bitcoinme.com</a>.<br>
>>> > Please take a look and you will get your doubts clear.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Best regards,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Cyclonite.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Secure Email contact: <a href="https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg" target="_blank">https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Bitcoin donations jar: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > -------- Original Message --------<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > From: Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > To: james burke <<a href="mailto:lifesized@gmail.com">lifesized@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Cc: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:cyclonite@safe-mail.net">cyclonite@safe-mail.net</a>,<br>
>>> > p2p-foundation <<a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a>>, Sepp Hasslberger<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">sepp@lastrega.com</a>>, Georg Pleger <<a href="mailto:g.pleger@yahoo.de">g.pleger@yahoo.de</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Subject: Re: Bitcoin donation<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:30:23 -0500<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:54 AM, james burke <<a href="mailto:lifesized@gmail.com">lifesized@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hi Michel,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Yes, I do have a public key, but yet again,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > another nice idea with terrible interaction design and userbility<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > - most people have no clue about public private keys, so this keeps it<br>
>>> > a<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > geek thing<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I agree, although as far as I can see, the application at least takes<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > care of this for the user. Still, your point is valid in that some<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > people may not understand what is happening.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Most of the users of bitcoin now are early adopters, however. So, if<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > p2pf did support donation via bitcoin, it would be joining an ecology<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > of early adopters, and would likely only receive donation from those<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > early adopters.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > - the actual app upon launch is unclear. Where to click, what to<br>
>>> > do,gah!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I can't really support this even if it is a p2p solution.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > James<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Seems reasonable. If p2pf changes it's mind, I'm willing to<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > participate in any experiments with bitcoin<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michel Bauwens<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > James,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > do you have a public key?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Michel<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > This is a p2p application, so we would need to post your's or James's<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > public key, and people who want to donate bitcoins would need then<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > send you the bitcoins by downloading the bitcoin application and<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > sending it to you<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > quote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > "Bitcoin utilizes public/private key digital signatures (ECDSA). A<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > coin has its owner's public key on it. When a coin is transferred from<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > user A to user B, A adds B’s public key to the coin and signs it with<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > his own private key. Now B owns the coin and can transfer it further.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > To prevent A from transferring the already used coin to another user<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > C, a public list of all the previous transactions is collectively<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > maintained by the network of Bitcoin nodes, and before each<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > transaction the coin’s unusedness will be checked."<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Sam, can you help us install it on the wiki and blog?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I've downloaded and installed and am game to try with p2pf network<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > folks.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > This could actually be really useful for lots of local economy efforts<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > too.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Michel Bauwens<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Dear,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > thanks a lot for this email,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > it seems that it is worthwhile for us to experiment with this, but I<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > will<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > forward this to James Burke for possible implementation<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > James, I think we should do this, what do you think?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Michel<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, <<a href="mailto:cyclonite@safe-mail.net">cyclonite@safe-mail.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hash: SHA1<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Dear friends,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > making a<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > small donation.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > As you probably know, Bitcoin (<a href="http://bitcoin.org" target="_blank">bitcoin.org</a>) is a new kind<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > of a<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > P2P<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > crypto-currency in which the general public can make donations,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > macro<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > or<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > micropayments in a secure and anonymous way usually<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > without<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > any<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > transaction fee involved.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > You can change Bitcoins for real money (eg: <a href="https://mtgox.com" target="_blank">https://mtgox.com</a>) or<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > purchase<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > services or goods in an increasing number of sites.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > In order to receive donations you only have to publish one<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > of<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > your<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > accounts as generated by the bitcoin client or any specialized<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > bitcoin<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > trader (eg: <a href="http://mybitcoin.com" target="_blank">mybitcoin.com</a>).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Currently some projects as <a href="http://www.i2p2.de" target="_blank">www.i2p2.de</a>,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > <a href="http://www.torrentservers.net" target="_blank">www.torrentservers.net</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > and<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > organizations like the EFF are accepting donations.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > In my opinion this kind of decentralized solution without the<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > need<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > to<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > trust any middlemen is much better than Paypal, Visa or<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Mastercard<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > for<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > security-minded people as most of your donors are.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > If you are interested in pushing Bitcoin forward, do not<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > hesitate<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > to<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > contact me if you have any doubt.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Yours,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Cyclonite<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Sam Rose<br>
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>>> <a href="http://forwardfound.org" target="_blank">http://forwardfound.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://futureforwardinstitute.org" target="_blank">http://futureforwardinstitute.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://hollymeadcapital.com" target="_blank">http://hollymeadcapital.com</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://socialmediaclassroom.com" target="_blank">http://socialmediaclassroom.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human<br>
>>> ambition." - Carl Sagan<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
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>><br>
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"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human<br>
ambition." - Carl Sagan<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br>
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