<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Michel,<div><br></div><div>Would like an invitation.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for taking the time to help us all out.</div><div><br></div><div>Nancy Roof</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I just invited you,<br><br>anybody else who needs an invitation let me know,<br><br>if't s a great place to learn from knowledgeable people, and also to re-share the material we have assembled at the p2p foundation,<br>
<br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Verzola <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rverzola@gn.apc.org">rverzola@gn.apc.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I tried to create an account, but it told me it is by invitation only...<br>
<br>
Roberto<br>
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Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
&gt; thanks Olivier, are you on quora?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I didn't know about it but am hooked from 'go' ..<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michel<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, olivier auber<br>
</div><div class="im">&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:olivierauber2@gmail.com">olivierauber2@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:olivierauber2@gmail.com">olivierauber2@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; In fact the so called "social networks" are "social silos".<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Using the marketing name is just confusing the map and the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; territory. And almost everybody does it!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; We should fight on the semantic battlefield by using a term like<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; "social silo" just like Stallmann says "privative software".<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; But in this case, that is NOT to say that "social silos" are BAD,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; just that they are silos and have their own legitimacy. Other<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; rules may exist....<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Here is an english translation of a very short french paper about<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; this confusion and its consequences.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://is.gd/URiWqO" target="_blank">http://is.gd/URiWqO</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Olivier<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2011/1/18 Michel Bauwens &lt;<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a><br>
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<div class="im">&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; well said Sam!<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:48 PM<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Subject: New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; for social activism?"<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; To: <a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; New answer to "Are social networks the new platforms for<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; social activism?"<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *Sam Rose*:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I don't think social networks are the "new" platforms for<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; social activism. Social networks definitely are platforms for<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; social activism, though.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Many people do not realize that activity among participant<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; activists online usually happens across a diverse range of<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "Technologies of Cooperation", not limited to social networks,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; but also including self and service hosted blogs, wiki sites,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; social bookmarking services, email discussion groups like<br>
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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; quora. Social networks are only a part of the total picture.<br>
&gt;<br>
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