ok, I leave the decision on this to the techies in our team!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, james burke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lifesized@gmail.com">lifesized@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>Hi Michel,</div><div><br></div>Yes, I do have a public key, but yet again,<div>another nice idea with terrible interaction design and userbility</div>
<div><br></div><div>- most people have no clue about public private keys, so this keeps it a geek thing</div>
<div>- the actual app upon launch is unclear. Where to click, what to do,gah!</div><div>�<div>I can't really support this even if it is a p2p solution.</div><div><br></div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
James,<br><br>do you have a public key?<br><font color="#888888"><br>Michel</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Samuel Rose <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com" target="_blank">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">This is a p2p application, so we would need to post your's or James's<br>
public key, and people who want to donate bitcoins would need then<br>
send you the bitcoins by downloading the bitcoin application and<br>
sending it to you<br>
<br>
quote:<br>
<br>
"Bitcoin utilizes public/private key digital signatures (ECDSA). A<br>
coin has its owner's public key on it. When a coin is transferred from<br>
user A to user B, A adds B�s public key to the coin and signs it with<br>
his own private key. Now B owns the coin and can transfer it further.<br>
To prevent A from transferring the already used coin to another user<br>
C, a public list of all the previous transactions is collectively<br>
maintained by the network of Bitcoin nodes, and before each<br>
transaction the coin�s unusedness will be checked."<br>
<br>
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens<br>
<div><div></div><div><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sam, can you help us install it on the wiki and blog?<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Rose <<a href="mailto:samuel.rose@gmail.com" target="_blank">samuel.rose@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I've downloaded and installed and am game to try with p2pf network folks.<br>
>><br>
>> This could actually be really useful for lots of local economy efforts<br>
>> too.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Dear,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > thanks a lot for this email,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > it seems that it is worthwhile for us to experiment with this, but I<br>
>> > will<br>
>> > forward this to James Burke for possible implementation<br>
>> ><br>
>> > James, I think we should do this, what do� you think?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Michel<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, <<a href="mailto:cyclonite@safe-mail.net" target="_blank">cyclonite@safe-mail.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
>> >> Hash: SHA1<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Dear friends,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for<br>
>> >> making a<br>
>> >> small donation.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As �you �probably �know, �Bitcoin �(<a href="http://bitcoin.org" target="_blank">bitcoin.org</a>) �is �a �new kind of a<br>
>> >> P2P<br>
>> >> crypto-currency in which the general public can �make donations, macro<br>
>> >> �or<br>
>> >> micropayments � in �a �secure �and � anonymous �way �usually �without<br>
>> >> �any<br>
>> >> transaction fee involved.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> You can change Bitcoins for real money (eg: <a href="https://mtgox.com" target="_blank">https://mtgox.com</a>) or<br>
>> >> purchase<br>
>> >> services or goods in an increasing number of sites.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> In �order to �receive �donations you �only have �to �publish �one �of<br>
>> >> your<br>
>> >> accounts �as generated �by the �bitcoin client �or any specialized<br>
>> >> bitcoin<br>
>> >> trader (eg: <a href="http://mybitcoin.com" target="_blank">mybitcoin.com</a>).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Currently �some � projects �as �<a href="http://www.i2p2.de" target="_blank">www.i2p2.de</a>, �<a href="http://www.torrentservers.net" target="_blank">www.torrentservers.net</a><br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> organizations like the EFF are accepting donations.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> In �my �opinion �this �kind �of decentralized solution without the need<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> trust �any �middlemen �is much better than �Paypal, Visa or Mastercard<br>
>> >> for<br>
>> >> security-minded people as most of your donors are.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> If �you �are �interested in �pushing �Bitcoin forward, �do not hesitate<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> contact me if you have any doubt.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Yours,<br>
>> >> Cyclonite<br>
>> >> __<br>
>> >> OpenPGP Email: <a href="https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg" target="_blank">https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg</a><br>
>> >> bitcoin donations: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNKlVFAAoJEL/jfnFwT5SQ5boP/jCyIMBs4PoIT/+ztLgkzmlV<br>
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>> >> mAtNmp2KLSQgbuwNqh/BI2qFZYnc0ZR5bpwExzCMDkfbiMiKap4Aanh6O87FS5Jj<br>
>> >> B6Mlbp9r0BegyInlY1vF9g2fqLN1dt22YzH+fwSxoCt1R7/T6nNNc3TIEreWH464<br>
>> >> pPIBfKKPupAHD6u5A8snDp4LddPuyeuFVdxVWRxSqB7WIZz47mqYWNI74vGUVT2z<br>
>> >> 0tGlIY+zf3Pov32FEJrI/VlSfRdtIENaoVzWXMvoaH5eVVUD/iVH0lqVrdVMqtJD<br>
>> >> ZigS/0dHEwGk32dJ/WJ6veRfKRznS6rePN7oxMeY62AuKUdSNJbtwo6WPApXQJwF<br>
>> >> aF54XrOaKeZYXPWO4TZLQWTOjNE8UVz7j05ilaQkwYFJ0HxuR+knciM4eDCwHv5j<br>
>> >> Buueis3OAs1+lVUAM676h6HaU5CBRYqfr4we9DvdKk9rZWcXlJpcUGykcGIVxB4a<br>
>> >> sfhx5vc+jyNCYMMWbaulVhDMlI9ReA5WIpNpEQhh5gFALrwewF1uWBLJ9EjeDkja<br>
>> >> 4DOspqg6Kregt8LKEN5ozvaA6AFdWjuJxm0HHVNoZt7dy3zET7Wr/uf4B3g6JtMd<br>
>> >> iZY0cioLj/3TVVy6llWS<br>
>> >> =50gB<br>
>> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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