<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I will be happy to scout out technologies and evaluate them to contribute to this kind of listing.<div><br></div><div>Much of the work is actually ongoing, things are being published on the p2p blog and the p2p Ning group site - many of those articles can be just collected and used for the mapping of the infrastructure. </div><div><br></div><div>You are quite right Michel, a listing of all those things together would be a good resource for anyone attempting to get up to speed on what is there, with a view of building up something of their own.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Sepp</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Fuster, Mayo wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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I am very interested in the mapping of P2P infrastructure.<br>
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I think we need to build an actor around it. The firts step is to make clear what would define a P2P/free and open infrastructure, whatever you want to call it. This was one of the goals behind the infrastructure part of Fcforum 2010 declaration (<a href="http://wiki.fcforum.net/index.php?title=Collective_editing_Infrastructure_part_final_declaration">http://wiki.fcforum.net/index.php?title=Collective_editing_Infrastructure_part_final_declaration</a>). The second step would be to map the P2P infrastructure. And the third step to create an alliance between those resources.<br>
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On the mapping part, I would be happy to contribute and be part of a group of people interested on developing it.<br>
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Cheers! Mayo<br>
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De: Sepp Hasslberger [<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">mailto:sepp@lastrega.com</a>]<br>
Enviat el: ds. 08/01/2011 16:37<br>
Per a: Michel Bauwens<br>
A/c: p2p-foundation; Fuster, Mayo; <a href="mailto:giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com">giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com</a>; Douglas Rushkoff; Open Manufacturing<br>
Tema: Re: structured mapping of real p2p internet infrastructure<br>
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Dear Michel,<br>
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I must defer to you on matters of the wiki. I'm not a wiki editor and I can't insist on how to do things there.<br>
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My suggestion came from an example I saw in the free energy field, where PESWiki is organized with many sub directories and sub-directories, but it isn't me who did it (I don't even know how to make a new wiki page).<br>
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I was responding to your message, but wiki isn't my strong side. I'd rather stay on blog-type publishing.<br>
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It appears we need some volunteers for this putting-stuff-together-on-the-wiki type work.<br>
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Sepp<br>
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"The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"<br>
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On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
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> Dear Sepp,<br>
><br>
> from four years of experience, I can say that subcategories are not working on our wiki,<br>
><br>
> I'd rather propose that you/we use a specific project tag for this project, like Internet Infrastructure or some such, and other people can still use other tags if they want to same entries to appear somewhere else,<br>
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> now if you feel that within that new category, it would benefit from subfields and you are committed to them, of course, I'd have no problem with it,<br>
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> as you probably know, within each category, you can use the category page itself for free-range classification and contextualization,<br>
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> and of course, all the material we already have in Technology and Standards, can be re-used by retagging in this new more precise context,<br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">sepp@lastrega.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Michel,<br>
><br>
> I think a wiki entry (or rather a series of entries) would probably be the best format for a collection or a listing of what's out there, what projects are in progress. I could do some work on this, but perhaps we have others who could contribute to the wiki directly.<br>
><br>
> It could then also be structured much better, so we don't mix communications infrastructure with p2p manufacturing and other stuff. I see the page on Category:Technology on the wiki has a bit of everything.<br>
><br>
> My idea would be to organize this in a more structured way. Perhaps the Category:Technology could be re-named Category:Technology:Overview and then other pages could go under Category:Technology such as<br>
><br>
> Category:Technology:Communication<br>
> Category:Technology:Manufacturing<br>
> Category:Technology:P2P-Software<br>
><br>
> I'm not good at those categorizations, but you get the idea. It would make for less heavy pages on those subcategories, easier to get into and to contribute.<br>
><br>
> Sepp<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/">http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/</a> <br>
> <a href="http://www.laleva.org/">http://www.laleva.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://blog.hasslberger.com/">http://blog.hasslberger.com/</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger">http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger</a><br>
> <a href="http://twitter.com/healthsupreme">http://twitter.com/healthsupreme</a><br>
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> .<br>
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> On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
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>> Thanks to Giovanni for this overview,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sepp, would you agree to work on some kind of overview mapping of these different projects, in 2011, so that people could easily see what is going on?<br>
>><br>
>> what kind of layered organisation schema could we use to make most sense of it?<br>
>><br>
>> please also note <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards</a> and <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology</a><br>
>><br>
>> Michel<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Giovanni Lostumbo <<a href="mailto:giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com">giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com</a>> Jan 04 05:26AM -0800 ^<br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/">http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/</a><br>
>> <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku</a><br>
>> <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s</a><br>
>> also<br>
>> "<a href="http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-">http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-</a><br>
>> infrastructure/index.htm:<br>
>> <br>
>> " * YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to<br>
>> build a distributed index.<br>
>> * <a href="http://Status.Net">Status.Net</a> is a microblogging system that allows users to run<br>
>> their own Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other<br>
>> systems.<br>
>> * Tahoe-LAFS is a high-redundancy file system that allows many<br>
>> systems to contribute to an encrypted and distributed storage system<br>
>> which nonetheless remains readable only to the owner of the files and<br>
>> not to the owner of the storage<br>
>> ....<br>
>> * Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where<br>
>> users can run their own federated "pods", thus owning their personal<br>
>> data and directly controlling what is shared with who.<br>
>> * OpenPGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which<br>
>> gain authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-<br>
>> maintained keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority<br>
>> system that can be centrally compromised.<br>
>> * There is discussion and prototyping of a P2P DNS in progress,<br>
>> without a root authority but rather with federated authority...<br>
>> <br>
>> ... * Various federated identity approaches already exist for<br>
>> different use-cases, using mechanisms like OAuth and SAML.<br>
>> * Various experiments in using P2PTV video streaming technology<br>
>> exist, where the video stream is sourced from nearby users rather than<br>
>> always from a central provider.<br>
>> * And of course there are many P2P file distribution systems, as<br>
>> well as the GNUNet framework project.."<br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html">http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/">http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html">http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html">http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html</a><br>
>> <a href="https://twitter.com/jukux">https://twitter.com/jukux</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.accianco.jp/">http://www.accianco.jp/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf</a><br>
>> <br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>><br>
>> Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;</a> Discuss: <a href="http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org</a><br>
>><br>
>> Updates: <a href="http://del.icio.us/mbauwens;">http://del.icio.us/mbauwens;</a> <a href="http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;">http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens;">http://twitter.com/mbauwens;</a> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
>><br>
>> Think tank: <a href="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</a><br>
>><br>
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> --<br>
> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
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> Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;</a> Discuss: <a href="http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org</a><br>
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> Think tank: <a href="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</a><br>
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