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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hello!<BR>
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I am very interested in the mapping of P2P infrastructure.<BR>
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I think we need to build an actor around it. The firts step is to make clear what would define a P2P/free and open infrastructure, whatever you want to call it. This was one of the goals behind the infrastructure part of Fcforum 2010 declaration (<A HREF="http://wiki.fcforum.net/index.php?title=Collective_editing_Infrastructure_part_final_declaration">http://wiki.fcforum.net/index.php?title=Collective_editing_Infrastructure_part_final_declaration</A>). The second step would be to map the P2P infrastructure. And the third step to create an alliance between those resources.<BR>
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On the mapping part, I would be happy to contribute and be part of a group of people interested on developing it.<BR>
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Cheers! Mayo<BR>
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-----Missatge original-----<BR>
De: Sepp Hasslberger [<A HREF="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">mailto:sepp@lastrega.com</A>]<BR>
Enviat el: ds. 08/01/2011 16:37<BR>
Per a: Michel Bauwens<BR>
A/c: p2p-foundation; Fuster, Mayo; giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com; Douglas Rushkoff; Open Manufacturing<BR>
Tema: Re: structured mapping of real p2p internet infrastructure<BR>
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Dear Michel,<BR>
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I must defer to you on matters of the wiki. I'm not a wiki editor and I can't insist on how to do things there.<BR>
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My suggestion came from an example I saw in the free energy field, where PESWiki is organized with many sub directories and sub-directories, but it isn't me who did it (I don't even know how to make a new wiki page).<BR>
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I was responding to your message, but wiki isn't my strong side. I'd rather stay on blog-type publishing.<BR>
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It appears we need some volunteers for this putting-stuff-together-on-the-wiki type work.<BR>
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Sepp<BR>
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On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<BR>
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> Dear Sepp,<BR>
><BR>
> from four years of experience, I can say that subcategories are not working on our wiki,<BR>
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> I'd rather propose that you/we use a specific project tag for this project, like Internet Infrastructure or some such, and other people can still use other tags if they want to same entries to appear somewhere else,<BR>
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> now if you feel that within that new category, it would benefit from subfields and you are committed to them, of course, I'd have no problem with it,<BR>
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> as you probably know, within each category, you can use the category page itself for free-range classification and contextualization,<BR>
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> and of course, all the material we already have in Technology and Standards, can be re-used by retagging in this new more precise context,<BR>
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> Michel<BR>
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> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp@lastrega.com> wrote:<BR>
> Michel,<BR>
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> I think a wiki entry (or rather a series of entries) would probably be the best format for a collection or a listing of what's out there, what projects are in progress. I could do some work on this, but perhaps we have others who could contribute to the wiki directly.<BR>
><BR>
> It could then also be structured much better, so we don't mix communications infrastructure with p2p manufacturing and other stuff. I see the page on Category:Technology on the wiki has a bit of everything.<BR>
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> My idea would be to organize this in a more structured way. Perhaps the Category:Technology could be re-named Category:Technology:Overview and then other pages could go under Category:Technology such as<BR>
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> Category:Technology:Communication<BR>
> Category:Technology:Manufacturing<BR>
> Category:Technology:P2P-Software<BR>
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> I'm not good at those categorizations, but you get the idea. It would make for less heavy pages on those subcategories, easier to get into and to contribute.<BR>
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> Sepp<BR>
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> "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"<BR>
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> .<BR>
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> On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:<BR>
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>> Thanks to Giovanni for this overview,<BR>
>><BR>
>><BR>
>> Sepp, would you agree to work on some kind of overview mapping of these different projects, in 2011, so that people could easily see what is going on?<BR>
>><BR>
>> what kind of layered organisation schema could we use to make most sense of it?<BR>
>><BR>
>> please also note <A HREF="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards</A> and <A HREF="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology</A><BR>
>><BR>
>> Michel<BR>
>><BR>
>><BR>
>> Giovanni Lostumbo <giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com> Jan 04 05:26AM -0800 ^<BR>
>> <BR>
>> <A HREF="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/">http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s</A><BR>
>> also<BR>
>> "<A HREF="http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-">http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-</A><BR>
>> infrastructure/index.htm:<BR>
>> <BR>
>> " * YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to<BR>
>> build a distributed index.<BR>
>> * Status.Net is a microblogging system that allows users to run<BR>
>> their own Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other<BR>
>> systems.<BR>
>> * Tahoe-LAFS is a high-redundancy file system that allows many<BR>
>> systems to contribute to an encrypted and distributed storage system<BR>
>> which nonetheless remains readable only to the owner of the files and<BR>
>> not to the owner of the storage<BR>
>> ....<BR>
>> * Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where<BR>
>> users can run their own federated "pods", thus owning their personal<BR>
>> data and directly controlling what is shared with who.<BR>
>> * OpenPGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which<BR>
>> gain authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-<BR>
>> maintained keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority<BR>
>> system that can be centrally compromised.<BR>
>> * There is discussion and prototyping of a P2P DNS in progress,<BR>
>> without a root authority but rather with federated authority...<BR>
>> <BR>
>> ... * Various federated identity approaches already exist for<BR>
>> different use-cases, using mechanisms like OAuth and SAML.<BR>
>> * Various experiments in using P2PTV video streaming technology<BR>
>> exist, where the video stream is sourced from nearby users rather than<BR>
>> always from a central provider.<BR>
>> * And of course there are many P2P file distribution systems, as<BR>
>> well as the GNUNet framework project.."<BR>
>> <BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html">http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/">http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html">http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html">http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="https://twitter.com/jukux">https://twitter.com/jukux</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www.accianco.jp/">http://www.accianco.jp/</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf</A><BR>
>> <A HREF="http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf</A><BR>
>> <BR>
>><BR>
>> --<BR>
>> P2P Foundation: <A HREF="http://p2pfoundation.net">http://p2pfoundation.net</A> - <A HREF="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</A><BR>
>><BR>
>> Connect: <A HREF="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com;</A> Discuss: <A HREF="http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org">http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org</A><BR>
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>> Think tank: <A HREF="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</A><BR>
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> P2P Foundation: <A HREF="http://p2pfoundation.net">http://p2pfoundation.net</A> - <A HREF="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</A><BR>
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> Think tank: <A HREF="http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI">http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI</A><BR>
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