Dear Sepp,<br><br>from four years of experience, I can say that subcategories are not working on our wiki,<br><br>I'd rather propose that you/we use a specific project tag for this project, like Internet Infrastructure or some such, and other people can still use other tags if they want to same entries to appear somewhere else,<br>
<br>now if you feel that within that new category, it would benefit from subfields and you are committed to them, of course, I'd have no problem with it,<br><br>as you probably know, within each category, you can use the category page itself for free-range classification and contextualization,<br>
<br>and of course, all the material we already have in Technology and Standards, can be re-used by retagging in this new more precise context,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sepp@lastrega.com">sepp@lastrega.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Michel,�<div><br></div><div>I think a wiki entry (or rather a series of entries) would probably be the best format for a collection or a listing of what's out there, what projects are in progress. I could do some work on this, but perhaps we have others who could contribute to the wiki directly.�</div>
<div><br></div><div>It could then also be structured much better, so we don't mix communications infrastructure with p2p manufacturing and other stuff. I see the page on Category:Technology on the wiki has a bit of everything.�</div>
<div><br></div><div>My idea would be to organize this in a more structured way. Perhaps the Category:Technology could be re-named Category:Technology:Overview and then other pages could go under Category:Technology such as�</div>
<div><br></div><div>Category:Technology:Communication</div><div>Category:Technology:Manufacturing</div><div>Category:Technology:P2P-Software</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not good at those categorizations, but you get the idea. It would make for less heavy pages on those subcategories, easier to get into and to contribute.</div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Thanks to Giovanni for this overview,<br><br><br>Sepp, would you agree to work on some kind of overview mapping of these different projects, in 2011, so that people could easily see what is going on?<br>
<br>what kind of layered organisation schema could we use to make most sense of it?<br><br>please also note <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards</a> and <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology</a><br>
<br>Michel<br><br><br>Giovanni Lostumbo <<a href="mailto:giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com" target="_blank">giovanni.lostumbo@gmail.com</a>></span>
Jan 04 05:26AM -0800
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�<br><a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk" target="_blank">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk</a><br><a href="http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/" target="_blank">http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/</a><br>
<a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku" target="_blank">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku</a><br><a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s" target="_blank">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s</a><br>
also<br>
"<a href="http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised" target="_blank">http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised</a>-<br>
infrastructure/index.htm:<br>
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" * YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to<br>
build a distributed index.<br>
* <a href="http://Status.Net" target="_blank">Status.Net</a> is a microblogging system that allows users to run<br>
their own Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other<br>
systems.<br>
* Tahoe-LAFS is a high-redundancy file system that allows many<br>
systems to contribute to an encrypted and distributed storage system<br>
which nonetheless remains readable only to the owner of the files and<br>
not to the owner of the storage<br>
....<br>
* Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where<br>
users can run their own federated "pods", thus owning their personal<br>
data and directly controlling what is shared with who.<br>
* OpenPGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which<br>
gain authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-<br>
maintained keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority<br>
system that can be centrally compromised.<br>
* There is discussion and prototyping of a P2P DNS in progress,<br>
without a root authority but rather with federated authority...<br>
�<br>
... * Various federated identity approaches already exist for<br>
different use-cases, using mechanisms like OAuth and SAML.<br>
* Various experiments in using P2PTV video streaming technology<br>
exist, where the video stream is sourced from nearby users rather than<br>
always from a central provider.<br>
* And of course there are many P2P file distribution systems, as<br>
well as the GNUNet framework project.."<br>
�<br><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eallison/saito.html" target="_blank">http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html</a><br><a href="http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/" target="_blank">http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/%7Eley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html" target="_blank">http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html</a><br><a href="http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html" target="_blank">http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/jukux" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/jukux</a><br><a href="http://www.accianco.jp/" target="_blank">http://www.accianco.jp/</a><br><a href="http://www2.media-art-online.org/%7Eks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf" target="_blank">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf</a><br>
<a href="http://www2.media-art-online.org/%7Eks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf" target="_blank">http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf</a><br>�
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>� - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br>
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