[P2P-F] What do I Know?

Michel Bauwens michel at p2pfoundation.net
Tue Jul 25 08:03:11 CEST 2017

Dear Anna,

there is no contradiction in my mind, between the relative capacity of
indigenous people to live in harmony with nature (relatively as the native
americans wiped out the large mammals that used to live in north america),
and warfare and human conflict,

after all, nature is a place of predation and the food chain as well,

I am not trying to convince you, just pointing to anthropological and
scientific accounts of the documented violence that took place; this is no
way means we cannot admire and learn from the practices of indigenous
Aboriginals (I don't know much about them, they may very well have had
peaceful habits, but I'm sure you are aware the neighbouring Maori's, also
known for their ecological ways, where warrior tribes who subjugated
earlier inhabitants of New Zealand)

I've seen a few documentaries about peaceful Amazonian tribes as well, it's
just that they don't seem to have been the rule,


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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:45:21 +0100
From: Anna Harris <anna at shsh.co.uk>
To: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
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Dear Michel,

We have had this discussion before, and you have failed to convince me. My
reading seems to have taken me in the opposite direction, coming across
many who see prehistory, and some still existing people, eg aborigines, as
a time when people lived harmoniously with each other and environment.

'Australian aboriginal people have lived in harmony with the earth for
perhaps as long as 100,000 years; in their words, since the First Day. In
this absorbing work, Lawlor explores the essence of their culture as a
source of and guide to transforming our own world view. While not
romanticizing the past or suggesting a return to the life of the
hunter/gatherer, Voices of the First Day enables us to enter into the
mentality of the oldest continuous culture on earth and gain insight into
our own relationship with the earth and to each other.

This book offers an opportunity to suspend our values, prejudices, and
Eurocentrism and step into the Dreaming to discover:

• A people who rejected agriculture, architecture, writing, clothing, and
the subjugation of animals

• A lifestyle of hunting and gathering that provided abundant food of
unsurpassed nutritional value

• Initiatic and ritual practices that hold the origins of all esoteric,
yogic, magical, and shamanistic traditions

• A sexual and emotional life that afforded diversity and fluidity as well
as marital and social stability

• A people who valued kinship, community, and the law of the Dreamtime as
their greatest "possessions."

• Language whose richness of structure and vocabulary reveals new worlds of
perception and comprehension.

• A people balanced between the Dreaming and the perceivable world, in
harmony with all species and living each day as the First Day.'


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