[P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] The class structure of the "solidarity economy" or any alternative community

Sun Aug 14 09:28:32 CEST 2016

hi peter, I don't question the general process, but orsan is very specific
and so he must base himself on specific documentation

example, it is one thing to say, "it is possible or probable that some of
the terror attacks are false flag operations'

but when you say "all recent attacks in the US are false flag operations',
then you need proof

I am just a bit surprised that Gulen would fund james bourne movies, and
also speficially that the CIA would fund films that are devastating for its
image,

contrast that to the funding of the pentagon of hollywood war movies, which
always have an important positive role for the army ..

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:23 PM, peter waterman <peterwaterman1936 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Surely, Orsan and Michel, parallels between cultural products and
> socio-political processes may be 'funded' as part of inter/national class
> or state warfare. I recall the CIA-funded Congress for Cultural Freedom
> (details need checking) of the 1950s.
>
> However we really 'have no need of that hypothesis'. For instance the
> brilliant dystopian novel of Dave Eggers, 'The Circle' - essential reading
> for everyone on this site - has no need of such.
>
> Likewise neither 1984 nor Animal Farm, even if Orwell did - later? - get
> involved in the CIA activities mentioned above. And then even if the Eggers
> novel was funded by Microsoft or Apple or Homeland (in)Security, it would
> seem to be profoundly counter-productive, a dreadful warning.
>
> P
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Orsan Senalp <orsan1234 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On one side there is Gore-Clinton-Soros-CIA-gulen-moon-current Vatican
>>> and associated groups (Bourne movie represents) and on the other neo-cons,
>>> Wall Street-western oil giants-pentagon, FBI, Zionist Israeli capital sort
>>> of constellation (Bond movies represents).
>>>
>>
>> interesting hypothesis that the CIA would back movies that are so
>> devastating of its practices ... and infuse it with so much left-wing
>> themes and left-wing activist actors ...
>>
>> I'm curious to your evidence ?
>>
>> In particular, what is the link between Gulen and the Bourne movies ?
>>
>>
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