[P2P-F] [NetworkedLabour] New models of leadership

Mon Aug 1 18:20:38 CEST 2016

thanks for the details Pat,

I remember critiques that Jeremy was not a good listener and did not work
well with his advisory team,

Michel

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Pat Conaty <
pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:

> Hi Michel
>
> This is a good piece on complexity theory and participative politics that
> Anna Harris has shared. As I have mentioned, this way forward is great and
> also the
> work of Stafford Beer on viable systems theory for intensifying
> co-operative forms of democracy. But I only wish Corbyn was moving in this
> direction. Not questioning his good will to do so and his integrity of
> course but little evidence of this yet emerging. See the relatively recent
> Gary Younge article below when there
> were three leaders in the race for Labour party leader, now just Smith and
> Corbyn.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/13/corbyn-critics-destroying-labour-party-members
>
> But in addition to complexity management and new forms of leadership,
> there is the need for a deeper understanding of economics and what is
> money. This question is the
> Elephant in the room as Geoffrey Ingham explained and that all socialists
> need to get to grips with. The Economic Advisory Committee advising
> Corbyn are all left of centre economists but even Piketty and Stiglitz
> have a poor analysis of What is money as Ingham highlights below.
>
> https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/geoffrey-ingham/whose-money-is-it
>
> Corbyn and other anti-austerity politicians thus lacks guidance on this
> question that is crucial for developing alternative economic strategies.
>
> Ingham is a professor at Cambridge. He is a socialist and in his book, The
> Nature of Money, he shows that unfortunately Marx got the money question
> wrong. Despite some great insights, fundamentally Marx concluded that money
> was a commodity. He took this from Aristotle. The real truth is that it is
> not a commodity but a social technology as David Graeber has shown.
>
> However as Ingham observes, this errant view of Marx has sent most of the
> left down the wrong road to understand money and hence most of the left is
> blind on this question. From a theoretical perspective this is a fatal
> flaw. Ingham argues so well that we need to revisit the What is money
> debates from the 1920s and folk like Gesell and also Douglas and social
> credit ideas as these show where the real answers are.  Ingham calls for a
> public social partnership on monetary and banking reform to replace the
> oppressive and toxic public private partnership destroying both society and
> ecology and leading us in to relentless wars defending geopolitical turf
> over oil and other resources.
>
> All the best
>
> Pat
>
>
> On 1 Aug 2016, at 09:16, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>
> dear Pat, has anything been written on the contrary view that was reported
> on in that other discussion ?
>
> Michel
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Anna Harris <anna at shsh.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> *The Corbyn Model of Leadership*
>> *Of all the people currently in leadership positions in a major political
>> party anywhere in the world, Jeremy Corbyn is the only one who shows the
>> potential of being a leader who could begin to manage successfully the
>> complex problems that all of our societies have to face in the coming
>> decades.*
>>
>> Brilliant article, first I've seen really understanding what Corbyn is
>> trying to do.
>>
>>
>> https://medium.com/@ROY_MADRON/the-corbyn-model-of-leadership-a7a006405f27#.hyj8ckaw2
>>
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