[P2P-F] varoufakis on piketty
Michel Bauwens
michel at p2pfoundation.net
Mon Feb 23 00:44:08 CET 2015
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From: Josef Davies-Coates <jdaviescoates at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Community Banking with a transformative difference: Negative
interest money
re global currencies with aligned values, Michel may have mentioned this
before, but in case he hasn't
http://fair.coop (see pages under Economic System)
Also, Greek's new Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis is a fascinating chap.
See e.g. this proposal of his for an FT (Future Taxes) Coin as shared on
the P2P Foundation blog recently:
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-ft-coin-a-complementary-government-currency-proposed-by-yanis-varoufakis/2015/02/19
Other notable things from him I've seen are this critique of PIketty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLPO2j9RQ0
http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue69/Varoufakis69.pdf
And this blog post from his time as Economics at Valve (a hugely successful
non-hierarchical video game company, where he was responsible for e.g.
linking economies in two virtual game environments by creating a shared
currency)
http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/economics/why-valve-or-what-do-we-need-corporations-for-and-how-does-valves-management-structure-fit-into-todays-corporate-world/
On 22 February 2015 at 23:09, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
wrote:
> far from me to say that community, regional and national approaches are
> not needed, but there should also be a global level, as no matter where a
> important sustainability innovation emerges, it should be supported to that
> it can scale globally,
>
> Michel
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Henry Tam <htam.global.t21 at btinternet.com
> > wrote:
>
>> How much of the alternative economy/enterprise/finance ideas, would you
>> say, can be piloted at a sub-regional or regional level? I was speaking
>> with the Cambridge Coop Party and we discussed how the fragmentation going
>> on can be reversed by renewed collaboration premised on cooperative
>> principles, sustainability and community-based services.
>>
>> Coop is getting a bad name, not just because of the Coop Bank (which was
>> never a real coop, and has just hired as a consultant someone who was in
>> charge of compliance at HSBC when all the non-compliance took place!), but
>> for example, in the ‘Which?’ magazine annual poll, Coop supermarkets were
>> rated poor for pricing, “shockingly behind everyone else” on value for
>> money, and worst for special offers and own label products. They didn’t
>> come first in any category. How would a major re-engineering even begin?
>> And the Coop Party HQ is opening the door to coops not providing the funds
>> that have been vital to local coop party’s political activities on the
>> ground.
>>
>> The Eastern Savings & Loans Credit Union is merging with the Cambridge
>> Credit Union. I wonder if they could play a role in providing investment
>> in the development of cooperative commons locally, or pave the way for more
>> extensive community banking regionally.
>>
>> We need some organisational levers to try out/pilot the ideas we talk
>> about.
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>> On 21/2/15 08:28, "Pat Conaty" <pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michel
>>
>> Thanks. Good to set up this file as you have done with Henry’s proposal
>> for an Open Co-operative Development Agency. This is a good place to start.
>>
>> Not much further comment to my proposal so far. If others want to comment
>> we can keep up this thread. Otherwise I will move this forward otherwise. I
>> think with the Dieter Suhr article that was circulated my points further
>> below are pretty clear. In any event I aim to complete my short book on
>> co-operative capital and convivial money in April. This will probably
>> feature in the final chapter.
>>
>> Annemarie has responded offline so I will talk with her further next week.
>>
>> On a related matter to my proposal but at national government level for
>> interest free money, here is some extra info to ponder. Until the mid 1970s
>> the Bank of Canada was a public bank for the entire country, not just a
>> central bank as it has been forced to become today by the Bank for
>> International Settlements (the international private bank for central
>> bankers based in Basle)..
>>
>> Here below from Ellen Brown is an update on the Bank of Canada case by
>> Comer in the Canadian level Supreme Court. The case is focusing on a demand
>> for reviving the Bank of Canada role in making interest free loans direct
>> into the real economy for infrastructure and services for the public good.
>> So read here QE as socially directed investment not for assisting the
>> refinancing of the toxic balance sheets of banks as we know QE. See also
>> the the other link with all the background in Part 3 of my paper on the
>> Commons Transition Website.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> http://www.publicbankinginstitute.org/canadian_court_decision_has_revolutionary_implications_for_banking?utm_campaign=feb_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pbi
>> <http://www.publicbankinginstitute.org/canadian_court_decision_has_revolutionary_implications_for_banking?utm_campaign=feb_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pbi>
>> <http://www.publicbankinginstitute.org/canadian_court_decision_has_revolutionary_implications_for_banking?utm_campaign=feb_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pbi>
>>
>>
>> http://commonstransition.org/co-operative-commonwealth-de-commodifying-land-and-money-part-3/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 00:37, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Pat,
>>
>> I don't have time to rummage through the older emails but I have created
>> this common document as you requested,
>>
>> see
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/188Y7COujNwhU60pMiNypXHaRHgLrjKywVlfN6AyOdCY/edit
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michel, Josef and Annemarie
>>
>> Michel, good idea. Do open a Google doc if you like with Stacco. A few of
>> this can then co-develop this co-operative money commons proposal for the
>> Commons Transition site as an proposition.
>>
>>
>> Josef and Annemarie, the proposal really is not complex. More info to
>> clarify what I am saying and advocating. We need a social-public
>> partnership to harness a collaborative transformative approach.
>>
>> If you check out the Dieter Suhr paper on neutral money he explains the
>> concept. But we need democratic finance bodies to make it a co-operative
>> form of money for local city regions in a distributed way. If Dee Hock
>> wanted actually a model where the customers owned the platform not Bank
>> America and other banks, you get the notion. As Dee Hock explains in the
>> extracts from his book on Chaordic Commons, the banks kicked this consumer
>> sovereignty idea of his into the Long Grass where it was lost.
>>
>> In Germany there are 50 regional currencies. Chiemgauer in southern
>> Germany has a negative interest rate of 8% a year. They both print notes
>> and have
>> a digital money version. This is interesting as unlike Ithaca Hours that
>> works with Alternatives Federal Credit Union in Ithaca as a credit union
>> and local money partnership or Bristol Pound that has a partnership with
>> Bristol Credit Union, Chiemgauer uses negative interest rates. This is an
>> advance on Bristol Pound and Ithaca hours from a design point of view as it
>> creates a dynamic pressure for money velocity and liquidity to expand. But
>> they create through Chiemgauer a slow pressure of three months at 2%
>> charge. If they moved to month at 2% charge, this would create more focus
>> on spending it.
>>
>> Where they are in southern Germany they operate more a slow money system.
>> But Athens needs a faster money system. So velocity and speed controls are
>> important and will vary based on the state of play of the economy. In
>> 1933 <tel:1933> Irving Fisher wanted FDR to introduce Worgl money at a
>> charge of 2% a week as the crisis of liquidity and structural unemployment
>> plus general strikes was huge. So speed controls on money with negative
>> interest can be ramped up to create emergency currencies with high velocity
>> to secure the common good.
>>
>> Many small credit unions have never been comfortable with Visa cards.
>> Bigger credit unions are into this game. Remember as my paper shows on
>> Co-operative commonwealth, mutual finance before 1870 <tel:1870> was
>> widespread with out any interest at all. This was the building society
>> movement for the first 100 years. People forget all this. Co-ops at the
>> outset were against interest and usury. This has been long forgotten.
>>
>>
>>
>> But there has always been a gap in the market in the credit union world
>> for an alternative payment system. I know as I have been involved with
>> credit union development since the early 1980s The debit cards being
>> developed for the homeless with the Big issue and Street UK in the UK now
>> are a step to be inclusive that CDFIs like Street UK here are working on.
>>
>> Chiemgauer’s digital money is supported by two members of Inaise, the
>> social banks Triodos and GLS Bank. Both Steiner banks. When you borrow on
>> Visa, the deal is this.
>> They give you a credit limit. You can take this money that you in a way
>> opt for at least initially. It is free money for one month. They though
>> make you liable for the borrowing. This is debt and debt money. Paper money
>> is complex and costly to administer.
>>
>> What is missing is the link to the city state. If we could get
>> sympathetic local government bodies to work with credit unions, CDFIs and
>> social banks to bring in them for these city-state monies we could add
>> another dimension that is missing with Chiemgaeur to get us closer to Worgl
>> where you could pay your taxes with the money. This move this closer to a
>> real democratic money.
>>
>> Bristol has got some support for some business rates tax payments. But we
>> need to advance further. Hull a city in the North of England has talked
>> about Hull Coin but this is not happening yet.
>>
>> Michel you can cut and paste my past few emails into a Google doc. I also
>> sent another one three weeks ago to you and Annemarie that one of you can
>> dig out and paste this in. It was about the interface between democratic
>> banking, co-operative money and the local authorities or small states like
>> Wales.
>>
>> Michel we should then develop a conversation with other experts on
>> banking like Cliff and Margie on this list plus Franz De Clerck, my old
>> friend. Maybe also Peter Blom at Triodos.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 02:28, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hi Pat, perhaps you can start with a formal description of the proposal
>> on a google doc, and then circulate it amongst players that can do
>> something about it ?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michel, Josef, Robin, Mike, Margie, Cliff and Yvon
>>
>> Terrific! Glad Michel and Josef that you agree with my proposal further
>> below for a negative interest VISA solution for social banks and CBPs.
>>
>> So where do we begin? Some questions for those on this list as this idea
>> could be co-operatively transformative.
>> I believe that backers with the knowledge and expertise could be
>> attracted from what is already happening below the radar.
>>
>> Indeed I think this could be a global project for Fair Trade Banking or
>> something similarly named. The gap between credit card rates of
>> 19% plus and bank base rates of 0.5% here in the UK has never been
>> greater. This is such a usurious scam.
>>
>> Credit cards are the most transparent example of how banks create money
>> as debt out of thin air. They give a new customer a
>> liquidity limit, create this by this agreement as new money that is
>> issued out of thin air, and then this liquidity becomes
>> another micro-profit centre. Just imagine a Worgl and WiR alternative
>> where local credit unions, social banks, co-operative loan funds, etc
>> collaborate to set up a Co-operative alternative on a regional scale on a
>> commons platform that could be national or wider.
>>
>> The credit card system robs from the poor and provides a free ride and
>> free liquidity to the better off users. This is a class divided system.
>> Credit unions and social banks could co-develop and offer a clearly
>> democratic and socially inclusive solution for liquidity and working
>> capital for
>> Commoners.
>>
>> If the banks can maintain this unfair deal, who could say legally that
>> credit unions as licensed deposit takers and co-op organisations could not
>> do the same but
>> in the Worgl way for issuing cost carrying money so everyone pays the
>> costs of the liquidity admin and a marginal cost for credit risk. LETs
>> failed in Argentina
>> a decade ago because Michael Linton never designed any credit risk
>> protection and if people take all the free money they want
>> you get inflation and a breakdown in trust. The volume and velocity of
>> money has to be managed.
>>
>> I did not know Michel that Dee Hock when he invented VISA wanted the card
>> owners not the banks to own
>> the VISA platform. This solution I am suggesting would be the answer to
>> that.
>>
>> I am sharing this idea with a few from the other list talking about CBPs
>> and co-operative economic democracy. My thinking
>> on how and why this would really work is based on a paper from Dieter
>> Suhr who is a German monetary reformer who died
>> tragically 20 years or so ago in an accident. He was a good friend of
>> Margrit Kennedy and I met him when we both spoke at the
>> launch of INAISE in Brussels about 1989 <tel:1989> . His proposal was
>> for neutral money but it lacked a set of co-operative finance actors to
>> make it
>>
>> happen. This has been the barrier. His book on Neutral money can be
>> downloaded.
>>
>> Rather like the problem before Dee Hock solved this for the banks in the
>> 1960s. Like today, where
>> there are umpteen local currencies and all not viable in a business
>> sense, then 50 years ago the banks were all issuing their own credit cards
>> and all
>> losing money. Dee Hock proposed a co-operative solution of convergence
>> which is what ViSA offered. A collaborative economy solution to
>> secure declining marginal cost economies. It worked but today we lack
>> this breakaway play for local money systems. They need to
>> stop doing their own thing. But how and would this be feasible? I think
>> so. So correct me if you think my hypothesis is wrong please?
>>
>> So some substance to back up this idea. We did work on payment system
>> solutions for CBPs and you can see these in the CBP report that Mike Toye at
>> Ced-Net has circulated.
>>
>> Robin Murray is talking to some top notch bank payment systems people in
>> London working on an alternative including a brilliant Welshman.
>> One guy set up the new Metro bank in the UK and the other is a ‘bank in
>> a box’ guy. They both want to see People’s banking alternatives
>> and one of the guy’s has been working with Occupy groups in London and
>> New York on what this might look like.
>> If we could get some Community Development Credit Unions like Self Help
>> CU, Alternatives and some CDFIs and social banks
>> like Triodos and GLS interested in this fee based payment and liquidity
>> system we could make a go of it.
>>
>> I have a couple of very clever CDFI friends in the UK interested in this
>> stuff. Moreover they are also payment system experts.
>> One is Martin Hockly at Street UK (a very successful home improvement
>> lender and micro finance lender in Birmingham) and the other is
>> Steve Round formerly at Unity Trust Bank, the trade union bank here. They
>> have developed a pre-paid debit card for
>> homeless people. Steve is chair of the Big Issue. Their plastic card has
>> been piloted successfully. Martin was working with
>> us in the past on a solution for CBPs to provide bill payments.
>>
>> I gave a paper about these Co-operative money ideas four years ago in
>> London and Martin Hockly has been very keen on the
>> possibilities since then.
>>
>> So what do you all think? This is so practical if we can get some early
>> adopters and perhaps build on the conversations Robin
>> has been having and some of the work in the UK on the payment system for
>> homeless people soon to go live there is a real chance for this
>> to be set up on robust foundations. Ann Pettifor of the Jubilee Debt
>> Campaign is a friend and she would find this compelling I suspect.
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 05:28, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> thanks Pat, I am convinced of this as well,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josef
>>
>> I do apologise. It has been a madly busy day.
>>
>> Yes, David B made the edits and sent round the corrected version.
>>
>> We are soon to send out the Deep Dive and if you wanted to have a read
>> and proof it, that would be marvelous.
>>
>> I am copying David in on this reply. I am sure he will share it with you.
>>
>>
>> On Community Banking Partnership, my argument and cast to Michel is that
>> while we need to
>> reinvent money and get this right. We cannot ignore the need for banking.
>> As I see it, the CBP models
>> of knowledge banking are seeking to be convivial, keep people out of debt
>> and provide
>> good basic banking services.
>>
>> What is needed if you can imagine this is for all the social banks, all
>> the credit unions and all the CDFIs to form
>> an Alternative like VISA which by the way was set up by Dee Hock as a
>> co-op but a private one which is
>> a contradiction. But if all the social and alternative banks were to do
>> this, then they could simply issue
>> negative interest credit card liquidity.
>>
>> But this requires all the non-capitalist banking service providers to
>> co-operate this way on a huge scale.
>> The banks did it to create credit cards as lethal weapons of interest
>> slavery. Doing the reverse with negative interest
>> fee based finance would drive forward the alternative.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Feb 2015, at 18:26, Josef Davies-Coates <jdaviescoates at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pat,
>>
>>
>> On 9 February 2015 at 17:20, Pat Conaty <pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Kevin
>>
>>
>> I think you mean Josef, but I'll forgive you :)
>>
>>
>> Here is the info on Community Banking Partnership. Two reports
>>
>>
>> Ah, thanks, I'd seen the legal structures one before. :)
>>
>>
>> and the model is evolving still but much better handled in the USA than
>> here. See the report by Cliff, my good friend in New York. Here is an
>> update on Neighbourhood Trust CU.
>>
>> http://www.neighborhoodtrustfcu.org <http://www.neighborhoodtrustfcu.org/>
>>
>>
>> Fair Finance, Wessex Home Improvement Loans and ScotCash are good
>> examples. Also Five Lamps in the North East.
>>
>> Bristol is pursuing CBP in a new attempt with the CDFA. Bristol CU,
>> Bristol £ and CDFIs in the city.
>>
>>
>> Thanks. BTW, did you/ David re-edit the Open Co-operativism Report post
>> my proof-reading? I'm very happy to proof-read the 2nd in the series too
>> if you've got that to share?
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Josef.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 Feb 2015, at 17:21, Josef Davies-Coates <jdaviescoates at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Annemarie: re:
>>
>> "
>> Pat helpfully introduced me to an(other) ALT currency expert to help me
>> produce the eventual report (attached, again, for speed)."
>>
>> I wasn't in this thread earlier on so could you please forward me the
>> attachment you shared previously?
>>
>> Also, Pat is you could send me your Community Banking Partnerships doc
>> too that'd be great.
>>
>> Many thanks and warm regards,
>>
>> Josef.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 February 2015 at 14:41, Pat Conaty <pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop>
>> wrote:
>> Michel
>>
>> For additional info…….
>>
>> Co-operatives UK are publishing a book with the New Internationalist in
>> June on a new strategy for the co-operative sector in the UK. This is based
>> on a considerable research exercise over the past two years.
>>
>> Robin Murrray and I have made contributions as has John Restakis. Ed
>> Mayo has done the editing and it should be a most helpful complement
>> to all we are discussing.
>>
>> We should have a chat to Ed and Robin about this. Robin is in India on
>> Fair Trade work at present but will be back at the end of this week.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> On 8 Feb 2015, at 05:31, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>
>> thanks Pat!
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>> Michel, Annemarie and Tapas colleagues
>>
>> Glad Annemarie that my short explanation of how to develop co-operative
>> money and co-operative capital solutions in integrated ways was helpful.
>> As to why this is so crucial……as a peaceful solution to the crisis that
>> is growing with Pegida on the march and the National Front in France
>> attracting support.
>> Consider the analysis in relation to the following history of how we got
>> to this mess.
>>
>> Jacques Perretti a radical BBC journalist (very few of these) has done a
>> superb two part series on BBC 2 on the roots of the Super Rich and Us
>> (episode 1) and the
>> proliferation precariat (episode 2)
>>
>> Check it out as it is gripping and a good sequel to Naomi Klein’s book On
>> this Changes Everything. Though the series is not about climate
>> change it is about the background to the precariat and a return to
>> Victorian times.
>>
>> Here is the link. Unfortunately the BBC scheduled them near to midnight
>> that past two weeks so almost nobody saw them.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04xw2x8
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jan 2015, at 11:39, Annemarie Naylor <annemarie at commonfutures.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks – all – very helpful!
>>
>> Annemarie
>>
>> Annemarie Naylor
>>
>> Director, Common Futures
>>
>> T. 07525 236797 <tel:07525%20236797> E: annemarie at commonfutures.eu W:
>> http://www.commonfutures.eu/
>>
>> Follow me on twitter @commonfutrs
>>
>> 12 Sandford Close, Wivenhoe, Colchester, Essex, CO7 9NP
>>
>> Common Futures is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England
>> no. 8481503
>>
>> From: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, 28 January 2015 10:58
>> To: Pat Conaty <pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop>
>> Cc: Annemarie Naylor <annemarie at commonfutures.eu>, George Papanikolaou <
>> georgepapani at gmail.com>, John Restakis <restakis at gmail.com>, David
>> Bollier <david at bollier.org>, Marguerite Mendell <
>> marguerite.mendell at concordia.ca>, Heike Loeschmann <Loeschmann at boell.de>,
>> "kate at sharedassets.org.uk" <kate at sharedassets.org.uk>, Benjamin Tincq <
>> btincq at gmail.com>, Kevin Flanagan <kev.flanagan at gmail.com>,
>> marihipotenusa <marihipotenusa at riseup.net>, Nicolas Krausz <
>> nicolas.krausz at fph.ch>, "j.loschmann at uea.ac.uk" <j.loschmann at uea.ac.uk>,
>> Mike Lewis <ccelewis at xplornet.com>
>> Subject: Re: Open Co-operativism report
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> this would be important to educate our networks, if not myself, but I am
>> travelling now and dealing with some emergencies,
>>
>> could you provide us with a clear excerpt of your choice, that explains
>> that distinction between cooperative capital and money ?
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>>
>> Annemarie and Michel
>>
>> Glad to hear Annemarie that my alternative currency pal, John Waters has
>> been helpful to you. I really look forward to reading your report.
>>
>> Michel, yes indeed, the work with SolNantes in France is exciting as it
>> involves up to 25 local government bodies.
>>
>> Annemarie, Leander Bindewald is a Gernan researcher and colleague of mine
>> at NEF. See the info below about SolNantes.
>>
>>
>> http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=68acbe3a1464672d97cffc627&id=4c87ec6bf4&e=fb078743b8
>> <http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=68acbe3a1464672d97cffc627&id=4c87ec6bf4&e=fb078743b8>
>> <http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=68acbe3a1464672d97cffc627&id=4c87ec6bf4&e=fb078743b8>
>>
>> The UK partners in this EU wide alliance include Lambeth £ and Bristol £
>> so these UK groups are watching with keen interest
>> the SolNantes launch after the successful trials last year.
>>
>> There js a problem though. Liquidity and money is one thing and capital
>> is another. We need both co-operative money and co-operative
>> capital. That is what my Co-operative Commonwealth paper on the Commons
>> Transition site is about. Most complementary money
>> people do not make this clear and conflate both concepts of money and
>> capital.
>>
>> On the other hand for capital there is the growing community development
>> finance movement and the social banking movements.
>> We need to get these alternative bankers more involved with SolNantes.
>>
>> See this paper on Community Banking Partnership (CBP) attached. We ran
>> pilots on these over five years and some have come out of this successful.
>> In Bristol the Bristol £, the Bristol Credit Union, several CDFI lenders
>> are involved in working up a city wide pilot of CBP. I have been invoked in
>> the
>> set up thinking and some colleagues of mine are involved in the early
>> stage work now underway. If this works the aim is for it to become a
>> national model.
>>
>> In the USA, you have these Community Banking Networks and some very
>> large now. Introducing co-operative money and joining both up is key to
>> reinventing banking and money
>> on a democratic basis. Alternatives Credit Union in Ithaca, New York have
>> formed a joint venture between Ithaca Hours and the pretty large credit
>> union.
>>
>> The CDFIs are working with expensive capital which is an issue but
>> otherwise they are doing fantastic work. They need access to
>> convivial money. That is a subtext of my Co-operative Commonwealth paper.
>>
>> Hope this is helpful.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jan 2015, at 09:21, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> dear Annemarie,
>>
>> great opportunities,
>>
>> a few ideas, have a look if you can at nantes, which already had its own
>> wir (ecoreseau, affiliated with the CIC) and now their own worgl with
>> SoNantes ..
>>
>> M3 is a really excellent magazine on commons urbanism, from the Grand
>> Lyon, but monitoring urban trends in general. Emile Hooge is our man there
>> and I have his email. Their latest issue was on l'economie servicielle and
>> mobility
>>
>> The Bologna Regulation on the Commons should definitely be on your radar
>> as a methodology of city-based commons governance, I have different
>> contacts there, though 'the man' is definitely christian iaione
>>
>> Two important themes:
>>
>> * instigating idle sourcing and the sharing economy, on hopefully
>> non-neoliberal terms .. Neal Gorenflo and the team around janelle orsi at
>> SELC monitor this very closely. Seoul is know to have done things a bit
>> differently than the start up road.
>>
>> * resilient cities and social/solidarity economies ...: we need civic
>> economy incubators .. Geneve has a Chambre de l'Economie Sociale et
>> Solidaire, Jean Rossiaud knows more
>>
>> I have various documentation on this in my wiki, so ask for specific
>> links on anything of interest
>>
>> so in conclusion the suggested themes are:
>>
>> * incubators
>>
>> * governance mechanisms
>>
>> I'm sure John Restakis would have recommended adding the social care
>> cooperatives as models to be on your radar
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Annemarie Naylor <
>> annemarie at commonfutures.eu> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> You may recall I was looking for x5 ‘big ideas’ when we were together in
>> Berlin for an English County Council, and that Pat helpfully introduced me
>> to an(other) ALT currency expert to help me produce the eventual report
>> (attached, again, for speed).
>>
>> I subsequently fed some of the thinking into an NLGN publication:
>> http://www.nlgn.org.uk/public/2014/the-council-and-the-common-local-government-in-2020/
>> whose author is now writing a book about the scope to commonify local
>> government post the forthcoming general election in the UK; again, I’m
>> invited to contribute thinking in this instance, so do send anything you
>> think might be useful and, in particular, concrete examples of ‘doing
>> different’ by local state actors as and when you come across them.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I’m invited to draw upon the original report to devise a
>> workshop for the Society of County Treasurers (so, senior finance officers
>> from County Councils – the largest representation of the ‘local state’ in
>> England). I’ve suggested I ‘lose’ the focus on customer services /
>> libraries – save to exemplify possible ways forward with a practical case
>> in point – and that I major on the scope to adapt IBM’s social
>> collaboration drive, introduce an ALT / electronic currency, and design
>> then implement an inward investment strategy for social and community
>> enterprise.
>>
>> If you think there are other ‘big ideas’ / themes I should be developing
>> for Finance people – I have land covered – please could you let me know?
>> And, if you look at the report and can help to bring up to date / enliven
>> any of the sections I plan to focus on, all thoughts/suggestions from you
>> would be very welcome.
>>
>> NB: this represents an EXCELLENT opportunity to influence the
>> reconfiguration of the local state in England such that it is alive to the
>> prospect of open cooperatives – a x2 day event hosted by the incoming
>> President and Chief Finance Officer of one of the largest local authorities
>> in England which also boasts the Minister for Local Government in England
>> as one of its Mps.
>>
>> Many thanks – as ever,
>> Annemarie
>>
>> Annemarie Naylor
>>
>> Director, Common Futures
>>
>> T. 07525 236797 <tel:07525%20236797> E: annemarie at commonfutures.eu W:
>> http://www.commonfutures.eu/
>>
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>>
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>>
>> From: David Bollier <david at bollier.org>
>> Date: Monday, 19 January 2015 15:15
>> To: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>, Pat Conaty <
>> pat.commonfutures at phonecoop.coop>, John Restakis <restakis at gmail.com>,
>> Marguerite Mendell <marguerite.mendell at concordia.ca>, Heike Loeschmann <
>> Loeschmann at boell.de>, Annemarie Naylor <annemarie at commonfutures.eu>,
>> Kate Swade <kate at sharedassets.org.uk>, Benjamin Tincq <btincq at gmail.com>,
>> Mike Lewis <ccelewis at xplornet.com>, Kevin Flanagan <
>> kev.flanagan at gmail.com>, marihipotenusa <marihipotenusa at riseup.net>,
>> Nicolas Krausz <nicolas.krausz at fph.ch>, <j.loschmann at uea.ac.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Open Co-operativism report
>>
>>
>> Dear friends from the Open Co-operativism Workshop,
>>
>> Pat Conaty and I are pleased to send along the final version of our
>> report on our workshop, attached.
>>
>> Thank you all for your thoughtful comments and edits. We ended up doing
>> more re-writing and editing than anticipated, but we are pleased with
>> the final result and hope that the report will stimulate some new
>> conversations and action.
>>
>> I know of at least three web postings of the report that will occur in
>> the near future -- one on my blog (www.bollier.org <
>> http://www.bollier.org/> ), one on the Heinrich
>> Boell Foundation's website, and one on the P2P Foundation website. I
>> will share those links when they are available. If you or other third
>> parties post the report, write about it, or have some interesting
>> reactions, please let us know.
>>
>> We have already seen a number of dialogues and collaborations inspired
>> by our workshop(s). Let's keep in touch about these initiatives -- and
>> new opportunities to advance a convergence of movements!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> David and Pat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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