[P2P-F] Transnational and P2P Commons Transitions

Sun Jul 27 12:22:33 CEST 2014

Dear Gordon,

there has been no capitulation ; the decision is simply not to broadcast
the conflict further at this stage ;

the evaluation is and has been  publicly available on the wiki for all who
want to read it, via
http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOK_Society_Project#Evaluation_by_Michel_Bauwens

 I will communicate you the names of the people in that meeting privately,
as they have been subjected to a hate campaign (associated with attempts at
bribery) themselves and now is not the time to have a red cloth
 in front of a bull ..

They have not threatened me into silence but have rendered the work and
life of many of our associates unnecessarily difficult and they all feel
furthering the conflict is worth this derailment of their work ; I just
respect that decision, that's all

Have you ever thought that by giving so much negative energy to a small
group you may in fact be feeding them ?

They have been outed and the information is available in different sources
for those who want it,

There is much work to do, positive work, in which we are engaged in every
day, conflicts are sometimes unavoidable but we have said our piece on it

Michel

<,Yes I know michel you have said that?. note the words negative?. positive
 reaction to the way you were treated are just fine

you say there has been

'collective decision by the core members of the p2p foundation asking you
to refrain

OK who are they please?  You will disclose surely

> However, our position is available on the wiki for those who search and
ask, we are just not spreading it actively.

I am asking for it.  It is generally regarded that something like this
might well should be announced? if it was i did not see it al though I have
a seen a draft of a assessment scheduled for publication on july 17 that
never came out and another scheduled for the 19th that was withdrawn as a
result of threats made against you.  That i believe is the meeting you are
referring to

> My associates estimated that anyone who needs to know, is already aware
of the logic of the flok mgt team.

who needs to know?. well michel please who does need to know.  Have the
flokista spaNIARDS DIVIVided the p2p movement in two?  Into those who need
to know and those who don't.  That is something you'd expect to hear from
the pentagon not from p2p
>
> I regret that Gordon is focusing on me as a person in this whole affair

no I am focusing on you as the leader and founder of p2p who has pledged to
the community he founded that after taking ill considered actions and
getting himself in one hell of a mess has now back downed
>
> Why an open letter to the person who challenged the abuse, and not to
those that conducted the abuse. It seems to me Gordon is focusing on the
wrong person(s).

those who  conducted the abuse have show they are not capable of rational
trustworthy action.

It is YOU michel who need to act with utmost integrity at this point and
not let these "bolsheviks"  threaten you into silence.

You promised a detailed evaluation and the hyenas started to bray at your
heels

My complaint with you at this point is that you apparently won't defend
yourself any further and you try to cloak your decision behind the shadow
of a collective request of the "core p2p group"  and sorry i don't know
what such a group is.

This collective request will likely turn out to be the most important
action ever undertaken in the entire history of the organization that you
have dedicated your life to building.  Surely you will be more transparent
about who the member are and the nature of the request?apparently it was
thought knot capitulating would stand in the way of other more important
p2p work.  Hope that is not the first step down the slippery slope of the
end justifying the means.

You need to publish the evaluation because you announced it, as a matter of
selfdefense, while under heavy attack, and claiming at the time that you
would not be intimidated.  Not only that, but after the mess, everybody is
waiting for closure.  If you don't provide close and you are not doing so
then the rumor mills will be in full control.  Not only of flok but also of
your reputation.

If you don't take that final step, the psychopaths will stand straight in
their shoes and feel their power, and keep bullying everybody until someone
else will confront them at some point in the future, take the heat, and
eventually shut their big mouths, or capitulate as you area now very
conveniently try to do - it was not my decision it was that of the core
group enter another loop.  Abandoning now will give them the impression
that "they won". Abandoning your solemn word will also raise the question
of whether people should trust you in the future.

On the contrary, if you comply with your word, you will have closure for
yourself, and for everybody else.  Other people can then make their own
minds about what happened, and you can safely disconnect from the
conversation, as you will have said everything you needed to say.  But for
the opponents, things will become a tad harder to play with: they will be
caught red-handed, with their own image and only their own reflection to
fight against.  At this point, they'd better just shut up and move on, for
they stand on moving sands, and third parties will have the whole history
to judge anything they would say.

I am sick and tired of ecuador?. but I now have a portion of the history
and i shall put it out in the open.  let the florists come rabidly after me
as you pointed out I am now getting to be an old man and i care about my
own legacy than their threats.  I stand on my record.

You got into one god awful mess michel.  Stand up in public and speak the
truth.  I am continuing to get new reports from ecuador.  They aren't
pretty and raise a lot of suspicions.  Only you know exactly what Daniel
promised you.  bernardo may be threatening to destroy you if you don't shut
up, but for gods sake please  do not capitulate.  Even if the truth is not
pretty.  Please tell it.

What i am drafting is for YOU because i am working under the assumption
that you can still be communicates with.  Your Opponents have way over
played their hand.  We are hearing now that the presidents office didn't
know about the folk project until the weekend before the summit.  With 26
signature required to pay the bills that assumption seems rather absurd.
 There rate to many people with first hand knowledge to paste together
something that safely buries this>>

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*Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no
record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..*

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