[P2P-F] an evaluation of the flok

Sun Jul 6 16:57:27 CEST 2014

Am 06/07/2014 08:24, schrieb Orsan:
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"I think the conscious act of transforming network into meshwork (read 
p2p distributed) by creating all possibilities for all the noses to link 
up each other, as will as the core information related to that network 
(this I got form michel's 2005 seminal article on p2p), as well as 
spaces, and channels that would generate more interlocking nodes between 
many meshwork (acting kind of as the fellowship of the ring) is emerging 
as the new ethics and politics in the network movements. The direction 
taken is clearly towards the creation of a big global meshwork. Unity 
and convergence makes a new sense in this new paradigmatic multi layer 
matrix, from inner to individual, to inter personal and community 
levels, recognising the simultaneous situations of autonomy and oneness 
in any given time and space location."

Dear Orsan,

you start correct. mesh network as a P2P distributed network. But then 
you lost the way.

"Unity and convergence makes a new sense in this new paradigmatic multi 
layer matrix, ...". This is a very different thing. In our horizontally 
distributed network, based on the full connection of the elements, we 
have no "layer matrix", because this is a concept of vertical 
hierarchical systems.

We have to be clear in the using of our terms. Based on this principles 
i wrote my proposals for NetMundial and www.1net.org. In the archive of 
this list i found this mails.

The basic step for that is the strong horizontal structure based on the 
local independent networks with her geografical position as the IP 
adress. This is the more technical view. But we have to be clear: 
without the technical definition based on our philosophical principles 
we never come to our P2P distributed network.

Our communication system, The InterNet, "the Inter-connection of local 
Net-works", is only oriented to the IP packet transport. All others can 
the people define self. The coding and decoding, the streaming process, 
the encryption. We transport the IP packet neutral. Only the physical 
difference, asynchron or synchron, we use.

This is a totally flat distributed system and this also means the term 
P2P. Following of this clear princip we never can use any hierarchical 
methods in our basic network. Over that, on the application level, the 
people can do what the want. But this is a virtual layer and his 
definition depend of the people self.

many greetings, willi
now: Medellin, Colombia