[P2P-F] Greek Elections

Mon May 7 11:13:54 CEST 2012

I dont believe that the free market will help. One of the requirements of a
p2p solution for me is the equality of the persons involved. The free
market has a tendency of creating actors of different power( small
enterprise, big enterprise, worker, consumer),a tendency which in my
opinion is systemic.

There are many other solutions that could work other than the free market
as we know it and money.
I tend toward the direction that money itself as a method of accounting is
flawed and that we need a method of accounting that is less abstract , more
concrete and detailed. The most similar (to my ideas) thing that exists
right now are the futures contracts. The futures contract can be thought of
as a kind of money that will allow you to buy only one kind of product.

2012/5/6 Anthony Papillon <papillion at gmail.com>

> Does the enonomy need to be controlled at all right now or could a hands
> off approach be the best approach to solve the crisis?  Is the government
> making a bad situation worse by artificially manipulating the economy?  I
> personally believe the answer might be relaxing regulations, loosen
> controls, and allow markets to correct themselves naturally.
>
> That won't solve the debt crisis externally but it could help bring
> stability internally.
>
> A
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 13:53, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <xekoukou at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 7 months after the occupy Syntagma Square movement, the elections have
> shown that the Greek citizens believe that an alternative political program
> is possible. It is important to note that during this period, in one year,
> unemployment in Greece rose 10 per cent. Have a look at this graph<http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country:at:nl:lu:de:es:ie:sk:hu&tstart=410227200000&tunit=M&tlen=337&hl=en&dl=en&iconSize=0.5&uniSize=0.035#%21ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country:de:es:ie:sk:it:el&ifdim=country_group&tstart=744584400000&tend=1328479200000&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false>
> .
>
> These results will have a significant impact in Europe. Greece might be
> thrown away from Europe but Greece's paradigm will provoke internal popular
> movements in other European countries.
> One thing is certain. The economy as we know it in Europe cannot continue
> to work in the same way. It would work if people accepted the austerity
> measures, if people accepted to work more and be paid less.
> The question then is: Will the new popular governments be able to propose
> an alternative economic model? Will they erase the old ways for new ones?
>
> The p2p movement needs to offer new alternative ways. Right now, we have
> either the possibility of nationalization of the economy or capitalism.
> We need  a p2p way of controlling the economy.
> .
> --
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>      Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
>
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Sincerely yours,

     Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
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