[P2P-F] Who, ultimately, pays for production? Who should be in control?

Patrick Anderson agnucius at gmail.com
Fri Feb 3 23:46:44 CET 2012


Why are corporations against us?  Can that conflict ever be resolved?

What if the investors wanted the consumers to receive *real* solutions?
What if the investors wanted to *eliminate* the very problems that
corporation was created to solve?
What if the investors had no reason to seek scarcity and withhold solutions?

Notice the consumers already pay all of the costs of production.
And the consumers also pay profit because they pay late.
Could we ever get consumers to pre-pay for products (whether chicken
eggs or internet service) and then use those funds to purchase the
Means of Production?

When the consumers are the investors and co-owners for the purpose of
using the product directly, then there is no conflict between the
goals of the investors and the goals of the consumers because they are
the very same set of people!

To own for profit is to seek scarcity and stop the consumer from
gaining full control.
To own for product is to seek abundance with no reason to withhold
real solutions.

Of course every consumer is either a worker or a dependent.
So to say the consumers should own the Means of Production is also to
say the workers should own, but specifically it is addressing what
they should own, and for what purpose.

Workers need ownership in the Means of Production for the products
they *consume*, and do not necessarily need ownership in the Means of
Production for which they have skills to operate.
When consumers co-own the Means of Production, then they can hire
*any* worker, and so every worker can begin immediately without trying
to own the Means for exchange value.

Just as in the OpenSource/FreeSoftware arena, this will drive wages
for many jobs to near zero because it will just be so easy and fun to
do so many things, that many people will do some jobs for free.

This would be cause for alarm if we didn't realize that workers are
also consumers and so will necessarily be owners for the purpose of
using the product directly.




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