[P2P-F] taxes = solidarity

Mon Sep 26 17:50:18 CEST 2011

Patrick,

it is a difficult transition to make and it is contrary to much of the  
flapdoodle and dys-information that has been well supported for a very  
long time. "Leverage" is still a useful concept, and like much of the  
casino banking model it has to be consciously regulated. As a for instance  
the US/Brit. War of 1812 happened as a result of the US refusing to extend  
the charter of the First National Bank of the United States by way the  
influence by one Mayer Amschel Rothschild upon the English Parliament and  
government. There was an assassination attempt upon Pres. Andrew Jackson  
by a person who had just recent returned from England, most likely  
directly connected to Jackson's strong opposition to rechartering the  
Second National Bank of the US. Unfortunately Jackson's solution was from  
a states-rights variety of libertarianism, (sound familiar?) which was the  
wrong solution to a real problem.

Certainly there would be room for investors, venture capitalists to  
participate in funding genuinely progressive alternatives and innovation.  
Under a sovereign fiat asset based currency naking would be primarily a  
utility, rather than a force driven by financialized capital and their  
private interests. Sovereign governments could management the accumulation  
of "excess wealth" to the extent that it demonstrate harmful effects upon  
the economy, ie no more BP oil catastrophes, wars being promoted by  
corporations and munitions manufacturers, or unending public debt.

Tadit

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:15:23 -0400, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Tadit wrote:
>> This metaphor is still within a debt/based currency paradigm.
>
> Yes, I understand, and am slightly ashamed...
>
> But my intent is to leverage (oh no, did I really use that word?)
> the traditional Angel Investors, Venture-Capitalists, Bankers, etc.
> to fund the startup of a Vertically-Integrated Permaculture Mosaic
> (VIPM) with the long-term goal of finally 'escaping' the current
> system through a carefully crafted Trade Agreement applied to
> the VIPM property so that ownership 'flows' to those who are
> willing to pay Costs for Stasis and Profit for Growth.
>
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