[P2P-F] stonehenge as counterrevolution and the paleolithic sex strike

Sat Sep 10 06:51:34 CEST 2011

thanks for the details, very useful ..

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Andy Robinson <ldxar1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, Chris Knight is quite a famous figure here.  He's involved in
> street-theatre protests.  He got purged from his university for supporting
> the G20 protests (mixture of managerial fascism and gutter press witch-hunt)
> and ended up in exile for awhile, though he seems to be back now, and was
> arrested pre-emptively before the Royal Wedding.  He is or was also
> associated with Labour Left Briefing (a post-Trotskyite group in the Labour
> Party).  He's been promoting this same theory Sims adopts for some time,
> i.e. the serpent/dragon symbolises a solidarity strike by women which
> founded humanity by destroying patriarchy/individualism, and all this linked
> in with moon cycle symbolism as well.  He's put some of his stuff online
> here:  http://www.chrisknight.co.uk/  Camilla Power, the other person
> named here, is Knight's partner, and also an anthropology professor.  The
> Radical Anthropology Group has all the hallmarks of being Knight's
> fanclub/brainchild, their website is here:
> http://www.radicalanthropologygroup.org/new/Home.html  and they also link
> to this site: http://www.lunarchy.org/lunarchy.org/Home.html  TBH I'd
> never comes across the group before you sent me the email, which suggests
> they don't have much of a following in anthropology.  They're coming from a
> very particular niche I think, a kind of Marxist evolutionism, which is very
> much at odds with where most radical anthropologists would situate
> themselves nowadays (poststructuralist / postcolonial / power-analysis), and
> also apparently unconnected to the "anti-civ" people using anthropology in
> relation to radical green activism (who are very much not Marxists).
> They're probably a bit of a groupuscle, and they almost seem to be creating
> a new belief-system with its own narrative of origins, fall and recurrence,
> somewhere between Marxism and New Age.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>
>> thanks for the reply ... would you have any resources related to the
>> radical anthropology group?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Andy Robinson <ldxar1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hiya,
>>>
>>> Sims is new to me, but this sounds very similar to Engels' position, and
>>> also to Zerzan.  Things get very speculative that far back, and most
>>> anthropologists leave this stuff to archaeologists nowadays, partly because
>>> of the reflexive turn in anthropology.  The main quibble I'd raise is that,
>>> while some hunter-gatherer groups are recorded as gender-egalitarian, others
>>> are not (e.g. Sambia, Guarani, Yanomami), and on the other hand, some
>>> sedentary pastoralists are gender-egalitarian or tend towards women's power
>>> (Ladakh, Manipur).  Also, there isn't much evidence for rule by women at any
>>> point, and the whole transition from ape to man thing is dubious.  We're
>>> talking transition from extinct early hominids whose social life we know
>>> next to nothing about; people in the Engelsian tradition (and social
>>> Darwinists also) extrapolate from chimps (which are patriarchal and
>>> aggressive), but we're actually more closely related to Bonobos, which are
>>> also communistic, egalitarian and arguably matriarchal.  Also I'm fairly
>>> sure the "incest taboo led to intelligence" thing is falsified by animal
>>> breeding experiments, though I don't know the details.
>>>
>>> bw
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>> michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> see
>>>> http://www.radicalanthropologygroup.org/old/pub_knight_power_watts_big.pdfand read it with
>>>> http://www.radicalanthropologygroup.org/old/pub_knight_power_watts_big.pdf
>>>>
>>>> really interesting stuff about the origins of class society and the
>>>> hunter-gathering to agriculture switch
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
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