[P2P-F] important advance in network theory approaches

[Samuel Rose]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> thanks Sam,
>
> this may be the case, but I see a lot of network theory literature, for
> example the much cited Reed's law, which ignores human volition ..
>

I can imagine. I think if you are interested in network theory, it is
definitely worth knowing the complex systems thinkers from throughout
the 1980's to present (if you do not already). Lots of great useful
work there.

> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>> > Dear TOmas,
>> >
>> > This is quite important in my opinion with network theory finally
>> > including
>> > human volition and abandoning reductionism,
>> >
>> > I really hope you can look into this for discussion at our blog,
>> >
>> > see http://gfbertini.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/wisdom-about-crowds/ ;
>> > http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
>> >
>> >
>> >  Existing models of crowd behaviour do just that. They treat moving
>> > masses
>> > of humanity as though they were fluids. This works, up to a point. But
>> > it
>> > often fails to predict the changes that happen as a crowd’s density
>> > increases and its movement becomes chaotic. That is why Mehdi Moussaid
>> > of
>> > Paul Sabatier University, in Toulouse, and his colleagues have made a
>> > radical innovation. Instead of treating the individual human beings in a
>> > crowd as if they were molecules, they have treated them as if they were
>> > human beings. They have, in other words, given them volition. Of course,
>> > the
>> > objective of someone in a moving crowd is usually fairly simple—to get
>> > somewhere and then stay there. But it is an objective, nevertheless.
>> >
>>
>> Unless I am really missing something, this is absolutely not anything
>> new in the world of network sciences and complex systems
>> science/modeling/theory. In fact, practically every agent based
>> complex systems model applies simple rules to the agents and then runs
>> the model to see what will happen. This goes all the way back to John
>> Holland, Robert Axelrod, and others who pioneered complex systems
>> models. Read the article on The Economist itself to see why I am
>> having this reaction:
>> http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
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