[P2P-F] [P2P-URBANISM WA] Detroit and Seattle

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 08:17:13 CET 2011


Dear Stefano, Nikos:

I'm interested in a separate update on the Chiesa project,  if you have
anything available,

Michel

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Stefano Serafini <
stefanonikolaevic at gmail.com> wrote:

> Привет Глеб!
>
> I like your interest in Kondratiev, and would like to share some ideas. I'm
> taking care of the research of the International Society of Biourbanism (
> www.biourbanism.org ), and I think 3 actual issues we are working on can
> fit with your research: 1) Biopolitics; 2) Ecovillages; 3) Politics issues.
> All are related with P2P.
>
> 1) Massimilano Caserta and me are especially interested in biopolitics
> issues. Massimilano focuses more on the analysis of space as organized by
> the power (according to the thought of Michel Foucault), while I'm more
> engaged in the relation between urban form degradation and
> hyper-real/images/spectacle/interface, seeking for solutions based upon
> human body (biophilia, neuroergonomy).
>
> 2) Massimo Locci operates in Denmark, and is now researching on
> Eco-villages experience in Northern Europe, collecting informations and
> models.
>
> 3) You probably know mr. Giulietto Chiesa (Джульетто Кьеза): he proposed
> to our Society to develop a human resistance tool, to be used enforcing a
> political transition to post-carbon and post-collpase cities. Nikos
> Salingaros is directing this work at the moment.
>
> Hoping you to stay in touch.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefano Serafini
>
>
> 2011/3/18 Gleb Tyurin <glebglobal at gmail.com>
>
>> Dear friends!
>>
>> My name is Gleb Tyurin.I have been registered as a member of that network
>> recently.. I am very glad to do it.
>>
>> Let me say few words about myself.
>>
>> I am from Russia. Now I live in Moscow.
>>
>> For many years I have been working with rural development in the North of
>> Russia, in Archangelsk region. I worked with development projects in far
>> remote villages, providing them with education, consulting.  I created an
>> NGO called Institute for Social and Humanistic initiatives. We managed to do
>> many things and achieve certain success, few dozens of development groups
>> appeared and started to work development projects. But we also faced certain
>> difficulties.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I live in Moscow. I try to create my own school in St. Petersburg
>> which is going to deal with issues of innovative development. I also try to
>> promote a program on local development of  one of TV channels.
>>
>> I am very interested in creating partnership aimed on building
>> understanding how to develop small places.
>>
>> Gleb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/16 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Via
>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/real-cities-real-transformations/2011/03/16
>>>
>>> Real Cities, Real Transformations<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/real-cities-real-transformations/2011/03/16>
>>> [image: photo of Sam Rose]
>>> Sam Rose
>>> 16th March 2011
>>>
>>> Check out our recent blog post on our new blog at
>>> http://blog.futureforwardinstitute.com/2011/03/15/real-cities-real-transformations<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/real-cities-real-transformations/2011/03/16>
>>> This post is a response to "How Seattle Transformed itself<http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/how-seattle-transformed-itself/>"
>>> by Edward L. Glaeser.  Some highlights:
>>>
>>> Systems Matter
>>>
>>> First, system-effects matter. Cities exist in networks of flows that
>>> depend on existing infrastructure. That infrastructure has system-level
>>> properties, and it is these properties, not merely the properties of the
>>> cities themselves, that produce system-wide effects. For example, in "Nature's
>>> Metropolis" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cronon> William Cronon
>>> explains the systemic effects of railroads and grain elevators on the
>>> development of the American midwest. In fact, the field of "environmental
>>> history" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_history> is rife
>>> with analyses of how differing contexts have shaped civilizations.
>>>
>>> In his article, Glaeser acknowledges that cities exist within broader
>>> environments, but then he lays his argument at the feet of the people within
>>> those cities. In other words, for Glaeser, network effects and systemic
>>> properties seem to be relevant *only insofar as they alter the
>>> properties of the parts, not of the system as a whole*. Cities change
>>> because of their positions in an ecology of cities, and people change
>>> because of their positions in an ecology of other people, but he fails to
>>> adequately acknowledge that the system itself has properties *outside of
>>> its effect on the the properties of its parts*.
>>> Comparing the Parts
>>>
>>> Second, Glaeser's comparison of Seattle and Detroit with respect to
>>> density also falls short.
>>> Glaeser's claim about "[d]ense, smart cities like Seattle," offered at
>>> the expense of Detroit, is hard to square with the fact that Year 2000
>>> U.S. Census <http://www.demographia.com/db-2000city50kdens.htm> data
>>> ranked Detroit as 84th in municipalities over 50,000 ranked by density, and
>>> Seattle 87th. The Census Bureau's 2010<http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2009.html>estimates still rank Detroit as the eleventh largest city in the nation.
>>>
>>> To be sure, much of this confusion can be laid at the feet of Economics
>>> as a discipline, which has been notoriously remiss in it's recognition of
>>> systemic effects. Macro-level systems-thinkers from Keynes to Schelling have
>>> consistently pointed out the shortcomings of micro-level analyses. Even
>>> post-Internet, Economics has tended to reject any claims that connective
>>> technologies fundamentally alter the landscape, for ex. Hal Varian's"Information
>>> Rules: A Strategic Guide to the Network Economy"<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Rules>
>>> .
>>>
>>>  What's Missing?
>>>
>>> After a recent visit to Detroit<http://shareable.net/blog/detroit-community-resilience-and-the-american-dream>,
>>> Millicent Johnson, community engagement manager at Shareable.net and a
>>> native of New York City, noted:
>>>
>>> It may be more pronounced here, but if we stay on the current track of
>>> trying to house ourselves in single family homes, consuming without regard
>>> for practicality or sustainability, and looking to a single source for our
>>> well being--in our case straight-up consumer-driven capitalism, there is no
>>> need to look into a crystal ball, the snapshot of our future is staring us
>>> in the face in the stereotypical shots of Detroit.
>>>
>>> But, I believe Detroit also holds the key to the future of this great
>>> nation. We must evolve to a more sustainable way of living if we are to
>>> survive, and I think we all innately sense it. We know that
>>> two-income-dependent housing prices, while unemployment and underemployment
>>> approaches the double digits, does not add up.
>>>
>>> Harvard Law School professor, Yochai Benkler, urgues us to recognize the
>>> "increased diversity of ways of organizing production" in the new economy.
>>>
>>> "The point is that the networked information economy makes it possible
>>> for nonmarket and decentralized models of production to increase their
>>> presence alongside the more traditional models, causing some displacement,
>>> but increasing the diversity of ways of organizing production rather than
>>> replacing one with the other. This diversity of ways of organizing
>>> production and consumption, in turn, opens a range of new opportunities for
>>> pursuing core political values of liberal societies -- democracy, individual
>>> freedom, and social justice."
>>>
>>> from Freedom in the Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Essays#Yochai_Benkler_on_Peer_Production>
>>>
>>> From this perspective, when Glaeser asks: "Can Detroit find the road
>>> forward?" the real response is "Detroit is*already* on the road
>>> forward." By freeing itself from the constraints of legacy infrastructure,
>>> Detroit gains the flexibility to "harness complexity" to explore and adapt
>>> to a new era (see Axelrod and Cohen, "Harnessing Complexity"<http://www.amazon.com/Harnessing-Complexity-Organizational-Implications-Scientific/dp/0684867176>
>>> ).
>>>
>>> "I really think it's a blessing that we've been deconstructed. We just
>>> have to build it right this time. If we do, we can show the world how to
>>> live in a sustainable way, with a city that can move quickly to adapt to
>>> whatever changes comes its way" said Mike. (Mike Han - Community Development
>>> Director of "I AM YOUNG DETROIT <http://www.iamyoungdetroit.com/>."
>>>
>>> from Detroit, Community Resilience, and the American Dream<http://shareable.net/blog/detroit-community-resilience-and-the-american-dream>
>>>
>>>
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