[P2P-F] CSPP, where is this project going?

[Athina Karatzogianni]

Michel,

To add to Mathieu's email.

Obviously the journal is not a software type project to be releasing things
as we go along different versions hoping people will improve or patch etc.
It would be quite bizarre if we just published papers in the public side of
the site before they are reviewed and ready to be read, debated etc. Not
only bizarre but not respectful to the authors which submit their work.

Also, this is a project built on consensus and dialogue and it does take
time to achieve what people need/want. There isnt just one person dictating
to others what to do in form of 'suggestions' or being the sole developer
with a dozen highly skilled people to filter code through. It is quite
different if you get me.

I think Michel that you might have confused the journal with a blog or wiki
where we ll just publish anything instantly. It takes time.

I believe we are close to having an inaugural issue soon and I dont think
the public cares how long it took or the internal debates, unless they are
some kind of student researching the creation of journals or sth like that,
in which case they can contact us to get the info or we can write a piece on
that issue for your p2p blog if it is interesting to you in particular.

If you would like to advertise the journal you are part of perhaps it d  pay
to wait until it is actually published. Then any issues can be discussed
then rather than preemptively.

I am not sure as I said that it is interesting to people to hear about a
journal which is not out yet. Sounds there arent enough news on p2p to me if
thats whats new these days : )

Cheers

Athina



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>wrote:

> Hi Michel
>
> Yeah, sometimes things take longer than you'd like - that's the problem
> with volunteer projects I guess. We are currently finalising some long
> research papers; we have two conference reports ready to go; when the
> research papers are done - hopefully no more than a month now - we will
> release all this at once and issue a final CFP.
>
> I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve by this post - "shaking things
> up" maybe? Obviously you should do what you feel but from my perspective it
> would be more useful to hold off until we launch officially and then
> re-publish on the P2P blog the ANT papers - something I suggested to you
> back in January, if you remember.
>
> All other content is for the moment on the restricted part of our site -
> you should normally have an account which enables you to check it out.
>
> cheers,
>
> Mathieu
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:29 am
> Subject: CSPP, where is this project going?
> To: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>
> Cc: Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>, phoebe moore <
> pvm.doc at gmail.com>, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k at gmail.com>, nathaniel
> tkacz <nathanieltkacz at gmail.com>
>
> > I'm publishing this on the 27th in the p2p blog:
> >
>
> > Critical Studies in Peer Production: where is this project going?<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14831>
> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens]
> Michel Bauwens
> >
> 27th March 2011
> >
> >
>
> > By my own reckoning at least 18 months ago, a project was started to
> build a scientific and theoretical journal<http://p2pfoundation.net/Critical_Studies_in_Peer_Production>to publish studies on peer production and P2P Theory.
>
> > Very quickly, it seems the original team focused on process, for example
> coming up with an innovative open peer review process<http://cspp.oekonux.org/journal/peer-review>
> .
>
> > However, it seems really strange that after so much time, the site is
> nearly empty of content, while at the same time, we have been able to spot
> 40 high quality essays, linked here <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Essays>.
> So we sincerely hope that CSPP will finally focus on content, which is so
> richly available in the p2p research community.
>
> > One interesting item, unfortunately at this time, the only item, is a
> very interesting debate on Actor-Network-Theory, see here<http://cspp.oekonux.org/debate/ant-power>
> .
>
> >
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>
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> Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute
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> The Australian National University
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