[P2P-F] feasible - legally - to set up an alternative government body in Wisconsin ?

Dante-Gabryell Monson dante.monson at gmail.com
Wed Mar 16 12:57:50 CET 2011


Nice to read your reply Mark

you say  **take it to court**

What if the courts themselves are not considered legitimate ?
What is the laws they abide by are not considered legitimate ?


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mark Janssen <dreamingforward at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems that governments are legal entities, similar to corporations.
> > hence it may be worth to check the constitutionality of setting up
> another
> > government,
>
> The only reason to try to set up another government is if your current
> government's basic principles or constitution are against your own
> basic principles.   Unless you want to be a dictator, this is likely
> not the case (at least in the U.S.).   Consider this carefully.  A lot
> of people have invested a lot of science of political thought over the
> past 3000+ years.
>
> "By the people, of the people, for the people".  This is what the U.S.
> prides itself upon.  If it isn't happening and you feel the existing
> (standard) procedures are too slow or corrupt to make a change,
> *force* the issue and *take it to court*.  Argue your f*cking case.
>
> Here's one:  make a freedombox that would create an awesome mesh
> network operating in ranges currently disallowed by the F.C.C.  But
> don't be another failure like Napster:  be prepared, do your research,
> have the economic and social-policitical cases ready when you get a 1
> million nodes and start popping up on their radar....
>
> Otherwise, it's best not to re-invent the wheel, because it's very
> likely you're going to run into the same issue in your "new
> government" that the old government had.
>
> You might check out the pangaia manifesto and pangaia.sf.net.  There
> is it argued that the basic problem affecting most everybody right now
> is the assumption of "right to property".  As it currently stands in
> most so-called "developed" countries it it placed well above the
> "right to sleep"  -- something that no human can do without.  Good
> luck in any case....
>
> Marcos
> (Project Lead for pangaia)
>
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