[P2P-F] UROs are on the air
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 09:43:08 CEST 2011
thank you George,
if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou
<georgepapani at gmail.com>wrote:
> Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with EU and IMF
> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were
> not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people
> gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
>
> George
>
>
> Στις 29/05/2011 04:45 μμ, ο/η orsan at tie-netherlands.nl έγραψε:
>
>> To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out
>> poeple and create a ripple effect!
>>
>>
>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>
>> great Orsan!
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> That would be great!
>>>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about
>>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-for-a-global
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
>>>>
>>>>> individuals ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her
>>>>> storify's,
>>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already
>>>>> retweeted
>>>>> amaia's story ...
>>>>>
>>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to
>>>>> keep
>>>>> track of developments in your own area,
>>>>>
>>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
>>>>>
>>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a
>>>>> weekly
>>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
>>>>>
>>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on
>>>>> 11.11.11
>>>>>
>>>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great
>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they are
>>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> globally link up and try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just
>>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who
>>>>>> organise
>>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either.
>>>>>> Many
>>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and they
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> try).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> stike
>>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> process headed to!
>>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia, Egypt,
>>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a
>>>>>>> harmonised
>>>>>>> city
>>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally?
>>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an
>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action.
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> need to link up!
>>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global
>>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, chris at cataspanglish.com <
>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could come
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a
>>>>>>>>> pain"
>>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping
>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of
>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for
>>>>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope
>>>>>>>>> o.O
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Chris,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following
>>>>>>>>>> endorsement,
>>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this
>>>>>>>>>> evolving
>>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as pointwoman,
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular
>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can
>>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market
>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all
>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a
>>>>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what
>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards
>>>>>>>>>> deep
>>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's
>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically
>>>>>>>>>> schooled
>>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen <<
>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com>
>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça
>>>>>>>>>> Catalunya
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football
>>>>>>>>>>> celebration
>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible.
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> campers
>>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen*
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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