[P2P-F] RS: structured mapping of real p2p internet infrastructure

Sun Jan 9 04:55:04 CET 2011

Mayo, I will send you a little text as how I see a p2p infrastructure,

Michel

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Fuster, Mayo <Mayo.Fuster at eui.eu> wrote:

>  Hello!
>
> I am very interested in the mapping of P2P infrastructure.
>
> I think we need to build an actor around it. The firts step is to make
> clear what would define a P2P/free and open infrastructure, whatever you
> want to call it. This was one of the goals behind the infrastructure part of
> Fcforum 2010 declaration (
> http://wiki.fcforum.net/index.php?title=Collective_editing_Infrastructure_part_final_declaration).
> The second step would be to map the P2P infrastructure. And the third step
> to create an alliance between those resources.
>
> On the mapping part, I would be happy to contribute and be part of a group
> of people interested on developing it.
>
> Cheers! Mayo
>
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> -----Missatge original-----
> De: Sepp Hasslberger [mailto:sepp at lastrega.com <sepp at lastrega.com>]
> Enviat el: ds. 08/01/2011 16:37
> Per a: Michel Bauwens
> A/c: p2p-foundation; Fuster, Mayo; giovanni.lostumbo at gmail.com; Douglas
> Rushkoff; Open Manufacturing
> Tema: Re: structured mapping of real p2p internet infrastructure
>
> Dear Michel,
>
> I must defer to you on matters of the wiki. I'm not a wiki editor and I
> can't insist on how to do things there.
>
> My suggestion came from an example I saw in the free energy field, where
> PESWiki is organized with many sub directories and sub-directories, but it
> isn't me who did it (I don't even know how to make a new wiki page).
>
> I was responding to your message, but wiki isn't my strong side. I'd rather
> stay on blog-type publishing.
>
> It appears we need some volunteers for this
> putting-stuff-together-on-the-wiki type work.
>
> Sepp
>
>
> "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"
>
> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/
> http://www.laleva.org
> http://blog.hasslberger.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger
> http://twitter.com/healthsupreme
>
> .
>
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> > Dear Sepp,
> >
> > from four years of experience, I can say that subcategories are not
> working on our wiki,
> >
> > I'd rather propose that you/we use a specific project tag for this
> project, like Internet Infrastructure or some such, and other people can
> still use other tags if they want to same entries to appear somewhere else,
> >
> > now if you feel that within that new category, it would benefit from
> subfields and you are committed to them, of course, I'd have no problem with
> it,
> >
> > as you probably know, within each category, you can use the category page
> itself for free-range classification and contextualization,
> >
> > and of course, all the material we already have in Technology and
> Standards, can be re-used by retagging in this new more precise context,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com>
> wrote:
> > Michel,
> >
> > I think a wiki entry (or rather a series of entries) would probably be
> the best format for a collection or a listing of what's out there, what
> projects are in progress. I could do some work on this, but perhaps we have
> others who could contribute to the wiki directly.
> >
> > It could then also be structured much better, so we don't mix
> communications infrastructure with p2p manufacturing and other stuff. I see
> the page on Category:Technology on the wiki has a bit of everything.
> >
> > My idea would be to organize this in a more structured way. Perhaps the
> Category:Technology could be re-named Category:Technology:Overview and then
> other pages could go under Category:Technology such as
> >
> > Category:Technology:Communication
> > Category:Technology:Manufacturing
> > Category:Technology:P2P-Software
> >
> > I'm not good at those categorizations, but you get the idea. It would
> make for less heavy pages on those subcategories, easier to get into and to
> contribute.
> >
> > Sepp
> >
> >
> >
> > "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"
> >
> > http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/
> > http://www.laleva.org
> > http://blog.hasslberger.com/
> > http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger
> > http://twitter.com/healthsupreme
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks to Giovanni for this overview,
> >>
> >>
> >> Sepp, would you agree to work on some kind of overview mapping of these
> different projects, in 2011, so that people could easily see what is going
> on?
> >>
> >> what kind of layered organisation schema could we use to make most sense
> of it?
> >>
> >> please also note http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards and
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology
> >>
> >> Michel
> >>
> >>
> >> Giovanni Lostumbo <giovanni.lostumbo at gmail.com> Jan 04 05:26AM -0800 ^
> >>
> >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk
> >>
> http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/
> >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku
> >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s
> >> also
> >> "http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-
> >> infrastructure/index.htm:
> >>
> >> " * YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to
> >> build a distributed index.
> >> * Status.Net is a microblogging system that allows users to run
> >> their own Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other
> >> systems.
> >> * Tahoe-LAFS is a high-redundancy file system that allows many
> >> systems to contribute to an encrypted and distributed storage system
> >> which nonetheless remains readable only to the owner of the files and
> >> not to the owner of the storage
> >> ....
> >> * Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where
> >> users can run their own federated "pods", thus owning their personal
> >> data and directly controlling what is shared with who.
> >> * OpenPGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which
> >> gain authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-
> >> maintained keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority
> >> system that can be centrally compromised.
> >> * There is discussion and prototyping of a P2P DNS in progress,
> >> without a root authority but rather with federated authority...
> >>
> >> ... * Various federated identity approaches already exist for
> >> different use-cases, using mechanisms like OAuth and SAML.
> >> * Various experiments in using P2PTV video streaming technology
> >> exist, where the video stream is sourced from nearby users rather than
> >> always from a central provider.
> >> * And of course there are many P2P file distribution systems, as
> >> well as the GNUNet framework project.."
> >>
> >> http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html<http://www.stanford.edu/%7Eallison/saito.html>
> >> http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/
> >>
> http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html<http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/%7Eley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html>
> >> http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html
> >> https://twitter.com/jukux
> >> http://www.accianco.jp/
> >> http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf<http://www2.media-art-online.org/%7Eks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf>
> >> http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf<http://www2.media-art-online.org/%7Eks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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