[P2P-F] structured mapping of real p2p internet infrastructure

Sat Jan 8 16:37:26 CET 2011

Dear Michel, 

I must defer to you on matters of the wiki. I'm not a wiki editor and I can't insist on how to do things there. 

My suggestion came from an example I saw in the free energy field, where PESWiki is organized with many sub directories and sub-directories, but it isn't me who did it (I don't even know how to make a new wiki page).

I was responding to your message, but wiki isn't my strong side. I'd rather stay on blog-type publishing. 

It appears we need some volunteers for this putting-stuff-together-on-the-wiki type work. 

Sepp

"The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"

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On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:

> Dear Sepp,
> 
> from four years of experience, I can say that subcategories are not working on our wiki,
> 
> I'd rather propose that you/we use a specific project tag for this project, like Internet Infrastructure or some such, and other people can still use other tags if they want to same entries to appear somewhere else,
> 
> now if you feel that within that new category, it would benefit from subfields and you are committed to them, of course, I'd have no problem with it,
> 
> as you probably know, within each category, you can use the category page itself for free-range classification and contextualization,
> 
> and of course, all the material we already have in Technology and Standards, can be re-used by retagging in this new more precise context,
> 
> Michel
> 
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com> wrote:
> Michel, 
> 
> I think a wiki entry (or rather a series of entries) would probably be the best format for a collection or a listing of what's out there, what projects are in progress. I could do some work on this, but perhaps we have others who could contribute to the wiki directly. 
> 
> It could then also be structured much better, so we don't mix communications infrastructure with p2p manufacturing and other stuff. I see the page on Category:Technology on the wiki has a bit of everything. 
> 
> My idea would be to organize this in a more structured way. Perhaps the Category:Technology could be re-named Category:Technology:Overview and then other pages could go under Category:Technology such as 
> 
> Category:Technology:Communication
> Category:Technology:Manufacturing
> Category:Technology:P2P-Software
> 
> I'm not good at those categorizations, but you get the idea. It would make for less heavy pages on those subcategories, easier to get into and to contribute.
> 
> Sepp
> 
> 
> 
> "The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"
> 
> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/  
> http://www.laleva.org
> http://blog.hasslberger.com/ 
> http://www.facebook.com/hasslberger
> http://twitter.com/healthsupreme
> 
> .
> 
> On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to Giovanni for this overview,
>> 
>> 
>> Sepp, would you agree to work on some kind of overview mapping of these different projects, in 2011, so that people could easily see what is going on?
>> 
>> what kind of layered organisation schema could we use to make most sense of it?
>> 
>> please also note http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards and http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Technology
>> 
>> Michel
>> 
>> 
>> Giovanni Lostumbo <giovanni.lostumbo at gmail.com> Jan 04 05:26AM -0800 ^
>>  
>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freifunk
>> http://www.masternewmedia.org/the-alternative-p2p-wireless-internet-network-the-netsukuku-idea/
>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Netsukuku
>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IEEE_802.11s
>> also
>> "http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/12/non-centralised-
>> infrastructure/index.htm:
>>  
>> " * YaCy is a search engine where many nodes share information to
>> build a distributed index.
>> * Status.Net is a microblogging system that allows users to run
>> their own Twitter-like site and federate selected streams with other
>> systems.
>> * Tahoe-LAFS is a high-redundancy file system that allows many
>> systems to contribute to an encrypted and distributed storage system
>> which nonetheless remains readable only to the owner of the files and
>> not to the owner of the storage
>> ....
>> * Diaspora will hopefully be a social networking community where
>> users can run their own federated "pods", thus owning their personal
>> data and directly controlling what is shared with who.
>> * OpenPGP encryption is based on self-issued certificates which
>> gain authority as a result of a web of trust expressed via user-
>> maintained keyrings rather than a hierarchical certificate authority
>> system that can be centrally compromised.
>> * There is discussion and prototyping of a P2P DNS in progress,
>> without a root authority but rather with federated authority...
>>  
>> ... * Various federated identity approaches already exist for
>> different use-cases, using mechanisms like OAuth and SAML.
>> * Various experiments in using P2PTV video streaming technology
>> exist, where the video stream is sourced from nearby users rather than
>> always from a central provider.
>> * And of course there are many P2P file distribution systems, as
>> well as the GNUNet framework project.."
>>  
>> http://www.stanford.edu/~allison/saito.html
>> http://www.media-art-online.org/iwat/
>> http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/s/Saito:Kenji.html
>> http://www.watsystems.net/watsystems-translation/english.html
>> https://twitter.com/jukux
>> http://www.accianco.jp/
>> http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91.pdf
>> http://www2.media-art-online.org/~ks91/gsap2009f-ks91-doc.pdf
>>   
>> 
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>> 
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