[P2P-F] 12 things you need to know about protests in Wisconsin, USA + Unions and P2P alternatives

Thu Feb 24 14:09:05 CET 2011

I'm going to have something (hopefully profound) to say about parallel matters in Wisconsin in about an hour or two.  I'm going to try to make my best pitch and see to what degree we can help move a rather big agenda along in the state of Wisconsin, and possibly other states.  It involves something that the Democrats, Republicans, Unions, the Tea Party all claim they care about:investment.  It also involves an really big opening for Chris Cook's concept of Open Capital.  

I'm hoping we can launch 72 hours of sustained effort at communicating what (for now) I'm calling 'Big Sticks, Big Deals and Olive Branches.'  ok that's vague...but i like it.  

Regards
Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
To: P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>; orsan at tie-netherlands.nl; Walton Pantland <waltonp at gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Adler <richardcadler at gmail.com>; Mark Dilley <markwdilley at gmail.com>; Paul B. Hartzog <paulbhartzog at gmail.com>; Matt Cooperrider <matt.cooperrider at collabforge.com>; Richard Schulte <richard at flywheelcollective.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 12:28 am
Subject: Re: [P2P-F] 12 things you need to know about protests in Wisconsin, USA + Unions and P2P alternatives

Dear Sam,

copying two more union-p2p friends on this dialogue,

Michel

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Mark,

This a long-term perspective/investment. Based on an ideas first
articulated to me by Richard Schulte of Flywheel Tech Collective, who
is copied on this email, the idea is to work with Unions to start
building worker-owned cooperatives of various types, especially based
around production and design of open source technologies/software.
Mark, I copied you because I know that you've been in dialogue with
Unions right here in Michigan for years. I wondered if you might know
of some Union folks here in Michigan that might be candidates for this
type of thing?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Mark Dilley <markwdilley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sam  - thank you for sending this out what seems so many days ago - I have been following this pretty keenly and am curious about the title of your email "+ Unions and P2P alternatives"
>
> open ears from anyone here.
>
> Best, Mark
>
>
> On 19Feb2011, at 5:19 PM, Samuel Rose wrote:
>
>> "What's happening in Wisconsin is not complicated. At the beginning of
>> this year, the state was on course to end 2011 with a budget surplus
>> of $120 million. As Ezra Klein explained, newly elected GOP Governor
>> Scott Walker then " signed two business tax breaks and a conservative
>> health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax revenues (among
>> other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it turned a
>> surplus into a deficit."
>>
>> Walker then used the deficit he'd created as the justification for
>> assaulting his state's public employees. He used a law cooked up by a
>> right-wing advocacy group called the American Legislative Exchange
>> Council (ALEC). ALEC likes to fly beneath the radar, but I described
>> the organization in a 2005 article as "the connective tissue that
>> links state legislators with right-wing think tanks, leading anti-tax
>> activists and corporate money." Similar laws are on the table in Ohio
>> and Indiana.
>>
>> Walker's bill would strip public employees of the right to bargain
>> collectively for anything but higher pay (and would cap the amount of
>> wage hikes they might end up gaining in negotiations). His intentions
>> are clear -- before assuming office, Walker threatened to decertify
>> the state's employees' unions (until he discovered that the governor
>> doesn't have that power)."
>>
>> http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/479560/12_things_you_need_to_know_about_the_uprising_in_wisconsin/
>> _______
>>
>>
>>
>> Aso worth reading:
>>
>> http://prop-press.typepad.com/blog/2011/02/report-from-day-five-first-chance-to-reflect.html
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I think the time is here to start talking with people about
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/The_Political_Principles_of_Peer-to-Peer_Advocacy
>> here, in the Industrial Midwest (which includes WI)
>>
>> One simple way to route around party politics is to give people a
>> direct p2p way to actively reflect existing poltics as we saw in
>> iceland with http://skuggathing.is/portal based on
>> https://github.com/rbjarnason/open-active-democracy
>>
>> Another parallel approach is to start applying collective decision
>> making and pooling of resources directly to problems people are
>> addressing. In addition, creating cooperatives, supporting alternative
>> currencies when appropriate.
>>
>> Unions in all of these states have resources, including pension funds,
>> that they could invest directly in worker-owned cooperative companies,
>> as has been discussed by Richard Schulte of flywheeltechcollective in
>> the past. Some of them have expressed interest in doing this. These
>> kinds of changes for entities like unions are long term changes and
>> investments, and will take time. However, I think every year that goes
>> by makes more and more on the left receptive to p2p alternatives.
>>
>> If people are interested in working on P2P political advocacy and
>> approaches in 2011-2012, let's talk here and continue to build towards
>> thing people can really use in places like Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan,
>> Eastern Europe, South America, etc
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Sam Rose
>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>> skype: samuelrose
>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>> http://forwardfound.org
>> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
>> http://hollymeadcapital.com
>> http://p2pfoundation.net
>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
>>
>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
>> ambition." - Carl Sagan
>
>

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