[P2P-F] thingiverse takedowns

Mon Feb 21 13:15:45 CET 2011

Is there anyone who can follow up the below and perhaps report on it?

Kevin?

many thanks

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   Date: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:39 AM
   Subject: [thingiverse] dmcs and thingiverse
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   I just got done reading the various blog posts on the recent dmca
   takedown of two objects on thingiverse and figured i would check here
   to see if there was already a thread on the topic and if not start
   one.

   I have seen some of the comments to the blog that were rather critical
   of thingiverse and makerbot for complying with the takedown. both
   thingiverse and makerbot acted correctly even if the claim were false.
   this doesnt make the dmcs correct but that is how the law and the
   world works.

   it is reasonably apparent that this claim is false but either way the
   proper procedure has to be followed. As a side note this gives good
   indication that mirrors of thingiverse need to be established in non
   crazy countries so that situations like this that happen in the future
   dont remove perfectly legal and important objects from circulation.

   another subject that tends to get overlooked by our community is the
   distiction between a object and copyright. the copyright only applies
   to the files that discribe the object and not the object its self.
   thankfuly there is still a distiction between copyright and patent.
   since copyright lasts for life of the author plus I beleive 90 years,
   and patent only last for a very limited duration (15-20y depending).
   for a number of years now buisness and industry has been trying to
   apply copyright protection to patend only situations, thankfuly all
   these attempts have been thwarted. I seriously hope that we open
   source advocates do not give more strength to these attempts. It would
   be a crushing blow to any kind of advancement. It would in many ways
   push humanity back to the days of trade secrets and guild rule.

   I may have more to spout about later but this is a discussion that
   does need to take place.

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