[P2P-F] An update on BIBO, financial stability standards, and the debt-virus hypothesis

[Michel Bauwens]

didn't know that one! will definitely check out and add to
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money,

Michel

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM, olivier auber <olivierauber2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok!
>
> J'oubliais, La Théorie Relative de la Monnaie (TRM) est la base du
> développement du
> Open-Universal Digital Currency project http://www.open-udc.org/en/start
>
> Et ça c'est en anglais, entre autres...
>
>
> Olivier
>
> 2011/2/8 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>
>> thanks a lot Olivier, if you hear from the english translation at some
>> point, thanks for letting me know!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:19 PM, olivier auber <olivierauber2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Bonjour matinal Michel,
>>>
>>> Sur ce sujet, j'attire ton attention sur un auteur français à l'origine
>>> d'une très intéressante "théorie relative de la monnaie" qui permet de
>>> calculer très exactement différentes choses, notamment l'expansion de la
>>> masse monétaire conduisant à une économie durable, ainsi que le montant du
>>> Dividende Universel qui serait le vecteur de cette expansion.
>>>
>>> Il s'appelle Stéphane Laborde.
>>>
>>> Le livre est ici :
>>> http://www.creationmonetaire.info/2010/11/theorie-relative-de-la-monnaie-10.html
>>> Le blog là : http://www.creationmonetaire.info/
>>>
>>> Malheureusement, tout cela n'existe qu'en français pour le moment.
>>> Un traduction en anglais est en cours, je crois.
>>>
>>> Amicalement
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/2/8 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sepp,
>>>>
>>>> because the discussion is largely technical, this is all I can do, but
>>>> perhaps you can add an extra comment?
>>>>
>>>> also, if you are in contact with Marc, please give him a chance to say
>>>> something about the evolution of the bibo project since december 2009,
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/understanding-the-logic-of-intervallic-periods-i-e-periods-with-riots-not-revolutions/2011/02/08>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=13869>
>>>> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens]
>>>> Michel Bauwens
>>>> 16th February 2011
>>>>
>>>> In December 2009, Sepp Hasslberger introduced to us Bibo, a proposed
>>>> standard for stable currencies, that would replace the current inherently
>>>> unstable banking money system.
>>>>
>>>> This article has become our most comment rich article, in particular
>>>> through a recurring debate between one of the Bibo co-authors Marc, and
>>>> Ardeshir Mehta.
>>>>
>>>> Ardeshir has written an article that challenges one of the main points
>>>> of monetary reformers, i.e. that the current system leads to the infinite
>>>> creation of debt through compound interest.
>>>>
>>>> You can find it here<http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/DebunkingTheDebt-VirusHypothesis.html>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> The context:
>>>>
>>>> *“Currently, most if not all money is loaned into existence by banks,
>>>> and is thus based on interest-bearing debt. There is no question that
>>>> neither interest nor debt-based money are good for society, and I have
>>>> written denouncing both debt and interest elsewhere. However, there is a
>>>> fairly common thesis, based on the fact that money is loaned into existence
>>>> as interest-bearing debt, that if new loans are not continually being issued
>>>> in ever-increasing amounts, enough money will not be created to pay the
>>>> interest on existing loans; and as a result, at least some those loans will
>>>> be defaulted upon, resulting in inevitable foreclosures. “*
>>>>
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