[P2P-F] Self-Sufficiency: a universal solution to the globalist problem.

Michel Bauwens michel at p2pfoundation.net
Sat Dec 24 19:11:37 CET 2011


I mostly agree with Gordon's take on this.

Self-sufficiency,  a good idea by itself, has a largely ideological
function, it does not inspire practice in any substantial way,

Michel

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Gordon Cook <cook at cookreport.com> wrote:

> I sent this to my mail list and asked for comment from two members fluent
> in thai who have been living there a long time.  I asked there opinion.
>  They both replied that if they gave their opinion they would wind up
> jailed.  One is economically well to do the other is not..... i have met
> both in person in thailand.  The one who is not well to do i married to a
> thai and lives in a thai village a LONG way away from bangkok.
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> There is no freedom of speech whatsoever in Thailand.  My perception is
> that there  are two sets of elites.... one tied to the monarchy the other
> to thaksin and that neither likes this program.  Michele lives there of
> course so he would know, but again remember that there are big risks in
> talking about Thai politics.  even on mail lists.  My perception is and i
> spent  10 days there in march of 2010 is that thais outside of bangkok and
>  perhaps many within.... would say that  you very much we are self
> sufficient and don't need any help from the higher ups.  and further that
> they view this as exploitative.
>
> one recommended this http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/
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> On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson wrote:
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> via John Médaille <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=695378522> ,
> who asked : "Michel Bauwens <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens>, any
> comments on this?"
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> Some excerpts below, which in the article are also followed up
> in mentioning Fablabs etc
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> http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/globalists-worst-nightmare.html
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> Self-Sufficiency: a universal solution to the globalist problem.
> For an extreme in-depth look at Thailand's "Sufficiency Economy" and "New
> Theory" economics, please see, "Wisdom from the Orient: Self-Sufficiency<http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/07/wisdom-from-orient-self-sufficiency.html>
> ."
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> http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/07/wisdom-from-orient-self-sufficiency.html
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> excerpts :
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> Thailand's Answer to the Globalization
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> The foundation of the self-sufficiency economy is simply growing your own
> garden and providing yourself with your own food. This is portrayed on the
> back right-hand side of every 1,000 baht Thai banknote as a picture of a
> woman tending her garden. The next step is producing surplus that can be
> traded for income, which in turn can be used to purchase technology to
> further enhance your ability to sustain yourself and improve your
> life-style.
>
> ...
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> Under the "New Theory," demonstration stations all across Thailand have
> been created promoting education in matters of agriculture and
> self-sufficient living. The program is competing against the contemporary
> globalist system, which as of now, is mired in many parts of the world with
> economic meltdown. The relatively self-sufficient nature of Thais in
> general has weathered this economic chaos fairly well. In 10 years, a plate
> of food still costs the same amount of money, as do many everyday
> commodities. This only further vindicates the value of being
> self-sufficient and now more than ever, in both Thailand, and abroad, it is
> a good time to get involved and get self-sufficient.
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