[P2P-F] p2p economy (fork of Ordoliberalism)

Wed Dec 7 23:55:57 CET 2011

hi,

I don't think the ows provisioning is sustainable in the long run, but it's
nevertheless a prefigurative example of citizens deciding on provisioning,
which is what I wanted to highlight.

competition is fine to me, and seems really a part of human nature, but I
believe it should be embedded in a broader system of cooperation, and not
the primary social logic.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:04 AM, FC Fisher <fcfisher at fcfisher.com> wrote:

> Michel, regarding your comment "my own take is that a peer to peer economy
> reverses the equilibrium between competition and cooperation."
>
> I am not convinced that the ows method of provisioning is sustainable or
> extensible, but I want to address the idea of competition.
>
> I do not think competition is the problem.  I think competition along a
> single dimension (money) is.  Goods and services should be able to compete
> along all dimensions of quality, put price must be removed from the
> equation to make this meaningful competition.
>
> I think the equilibrium we should seek is between centralization and
> decentralization.  A centralized economy, such as one that operates on a
> centrally controlled currency, has a bias toward centralizing, or the
> accumulation of wealth.  A decentralized, or p2p economy would have a bias
> toward distribution of value (wealth).
>
> I would define a p2p economy as the exchange of goods or services for
> goods or services or the verifiable promise of goods or services at
> subjective rates agreeable to all parties independent of a centralized
> currency or centralized authority.
>
> Technical feasibility discussions aside, an exchange supporting a p2p
> economy would need to facilitate a multi-way exchange of subjective value
> without conversion to a central currency or any requirement of a central
> authority or central exchange.  This multi-way exchange barter system would
> more closely resemble pre-currency economies, but could use technology to
> be even more efficient and reliable than centralized currency exchanges
> (e.g. retail stores, banks, and stock markets).
>
> So in terms of competition in this p2p economy, every producer competes on
> all the dimensions that potential consumers value, and does not compete on
> cost.   I think this is a potentially very sustainable and extensible model.
>
> Coexisting centralized and distributed economies have a lot of very
> interesting possibilities.
>
>
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