[P2P-F] monbiot on prosperity without growth - Guardian article

Amaia Arcos amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
Tue Aug 23 12:26:27 CEST 2011


Amen.

On 23 August 2011 12:07, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:

> there is a tragedy to it all, despite being immensely rewarding as well ...
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> @Vinay, you are right, I've always felt really sorry for visionaries and
>> enlightened people.
>>
>> @Michel :)
>>
>>
>> On 23 August 2011 11:49, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>>
>>> dear amaia, our list filters them out <g>, so if you are on it, it
>>> already means you can't possibly be one <g>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> As long as it does not make me come across as an arrogant idiot.. I do
>>>> write freely (ie without paying that much attention to my language) to you
>>>> cause I know we get each other and you know me a bit..
>>>>
>>>> I know, I guess I just get frustrated with myself more than anything,
>>>> sometimes I wish I could get a lobotomy, life would be a lot easier..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 August 2011 11:32, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi amaia,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you don't mind I share your interesting missives with our list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand your frustation, but you need bridge people who precisely
>>>>> because they are later in understanding, are more in touch with the broader
>>>>> movements of opinion, and can connect more effectively and translate the
>>>>> pioneers' understandings ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Being too early is always a problem in terms of influencing current
>>>>> events ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember Vinay Gupta being happy that he seemed only a few months of
>>>>> the curve, after having been ahead a few years before ..
>>>>>
>>>>> He left london 2 months before the outbreak of the riots ... sensing
>>>>> something was rotten in the kingdom,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've assumed you would come across this article as people are bound to
>>>>>> rave about it, but just in case you are busy with other stuff
>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/22/economic-growth-environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monbiot seems to get more and more popular lately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either I, together with millions out there, are visionaries or we live
>>>>>> in a paralel reality or the world is crazier than I thought. I don't
>>>>>> understand why we have to rave about what "experts" say when what they say
>>>>>> comes years after so many see stuff. I get frustrated with this world
>>>>>> sometimes, I do. It actually pisses me off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> “We would think and live better and be closer to our purpose as humans
>>>>>> if we moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth” Bruce
>>>>>> Chatwin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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moved continuously on foot across the surface of the earth” Bruce Chatwin
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