[P2P-F] Fwd: Regional Economic Communities

Thomas Greco thg at mindspring.com
Fri Apr 22 21:00:26 CEST 2011


Both asset backing and mutual credit are viable approaches to creating 
alternative exchange media. I wrote about all this in my book, /Money: 
Understanding and Creating Alternatives to legal Tender./ The devil is 
in the details.

Tom

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On 04/18/2011 8:35 PM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> just in case thomas greco wants to comment on mutual credit vs asset 
> backing,
>
> Michel
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Matthew Slater <matslats at gmail.com 
> <mailto:matslats at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Michel, Franz, & Georg,
>     Greetings Andreas Laurent & Tim,
>
>     Usually a barter currency is mutual credit, which means it isn't
>     backed by assets.
>     A currency which is backed by assets is a commodity currency. You
>     can only issue as much money as you have have assets.
>     Or some arbitrary multiple thereof!
>     So I would question the use of the expression 'barter currency' here.
>
>     Matthew
>     communityforge.net <http://communityforge.net>
>
>
>     On 18 April 2011 22:37, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>     <dante.monson at gmail.com <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Yes, sounds like a nice set of initiates to me.
>
>         Yet, Small note regarding the barter currency they propose,
>         "covered/guaranteed by the jointly-owned assets."
>
>         I remember discussing such approach in the past.
>
>         In my current understanding , such asset ( such as shares ? )
>         guaranteed currency is perhaps an approach taken to create an
>         incentive to invest in the local economy ?
>
>         May be worth asking... I cc Tim Reeves.
>
>         Yet I feel that such approach to currency can be risky as it
>         can lead to the monopolization of assets into the hands of a
>         minority, hence having the whole regional economy owned by a
>         small minority on the medium to long term ?
>
>         As far as I remember, although I have no references to provide
>         ( would need to ask Bernard Lietaer ),
>         in Belgium at least, I heard that unless one has a special
>         status such as a bank,
>         one can not operate a currency with euro equivalence
>         exchangeable for euros, unless there is 100 percent euro
>         backing in reserves, such as is the case with the german
>         regio/freigeld currency called "chiemgauer"
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiemgauer
>         and/or the JAK bank in Sweden
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAK_members_bank
>
>         If their barter currency is solely for their internal local
>         economy, with no possibility for exchanging for euros (
>         purchasing outside of their local economy ), I do not
>         understand why they would not have it in a fiat mutual credit
>         form, such as WIR, with participants choosing the percentage
>         of their monetary transaction they wish to be done in mutual
>         credit ( such as WIR ) ?
>
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIR_Bank
>         http://wn.com/WIR_Bank
>
>
>
>         On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Michel Bauwens
>         <michelsub2004 at gmail.com <mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             HI Franz,
>
>             any perspectives on this?
>
>             Michel
>
>             On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>             <dante.monson at gmail.com <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 http://regional-economic-communities.info/
>
>                 ( found via open space list )
>
>                 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>                 From: *Tim Reeves* <tim.reeves at rewig.info
>                 <mailto:tim.reeves at rewig.info>>
>                 Date: Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM
>                 Subject: Regional Economic Communities
>                 To: Tim Reeves <tim.reeves at rewig.info
>                 <mailto:tim.reeves at rewig.info>>
>
>
>                 Dear friends and acquaintances,
>
>                 I just put together a _one-time_ mailing list of the
>                 english speakers I know (and some german speakers with
>                 international connections). I'm writing to let you
>                 know about the concept of Regional Economic
>                 Communities, hoping that you may be able to help
>                 getting it known.
>
>                 The concept presents a complete – and radically new –
>                 paradigm for regional communities, linking together
>                 commercial, sustainable and social aspects. It
>                 describes a means for normal citizens to become joint
>                 owners of local, sustainably-run businesses. It then
>                 introduces a barter currency, the Grok, which is
>                 independent of national currency and covered by the
>                 jointly-owned assets.
>
>                 While thus apparently being a primarily economic
>                 paradigm, it's essence and motivation come from a
>                 spiritual perspective and in practice great value is
>                 put on the way we interact with each other, and to
>                 integrating personal growth and the furthering of
>                 interpersonal skills into the daily working life.
>
>                 The external forms have been carefully designed to be
>                 /practicable/.
>
>                 You can read all about it here:
>                 http://regional-economic-communities.info/
>
>                 The first such community is currently starting up in
>                 Munich - the cooperative is founded and registered,
>                 and moving ahead swiftly towards getting the actual
>                 business side up and running. If you would like to
>                 help the concept take root in the english-speaking
>                 world, here are some things that would help:
>
>                     * Forward this email to anyone you know who might
>                       be interested - people active in regional
>                       currencies, ecological measures, transition
>                       town, and such.
>                     * Anyone who has the possibility, please set a
>                       link to the concept website on your website, so
>                       that other interested people may find it.
>                     * Talk to friends about it, subscribe for the
>                       newsletter (do so on the website) – and don't
>                       hesitate to contact me with questions.
>                     * Envision a better future for all, and practice
>                       wellwishing for all the many endeavours to
>                       achieve that aim which are now being explored.
>
>                 The quality of the time in which we live demonstrates
>                 an exceptional development of consciousness. It grows
>                 with every individual who is willing to tread the
>                 paths of personalgrowthand systemic evolution. May it
>                 bestow us all with more cooperative and appreciative
>                 lives — paving the way to a future which we can truly
>                 look forward to.
>
>                 *With thanks and warm regards,*
>
>                 *Tim Reeves*
>
>                 Flurstraße 10, D-85221 Dachau
>
>                 Tel. 08131 - 273 653   Fax 08131 - 273 654
>
>                 Email: tim.reeves at rewig.info
>                 <mailto:tim.reeves at rewig.info>
>
>                 Skype: timothy.reeves (mit Webcam)
>
>                 ReeComm-Logo
>
>                 regionale-wirtschaftsgemeinschaft.info
>                 <http://regionale-wirtschaftsgemeinschaft.info/>
>                 regional-economic-communities.info
>                 <http://regional-economic-communities.info/>
>                 rewig-muenchen.de <http://rewig-muenchen.de/>
>
>
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