[P2P-F] Poor Richard commented on your link.

Sat Apr 2 11:24:46 CEST 2011

Dear Richard,

from your remark below, I read that you want to work mostly 'within'
existing society and nudge it forwards,

the article referred to, with whom I agree, calls for a much deeper phase
transition, that overturn the basic metaphysics that we've embarked on since
the 16th cy,

while any phase change has to work 'with' existing reality, I think that
indeed, that period of european and world history has run its course, and so
I must agree with the call for deeper work called for by Ugo Mattei,

Michel

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> Hi Michel,
> Poor Richard commented on your link.
> Poor wrote: "I take issue with some of the rhetoric here and will try to
> compose a response as time permits. But I can extract some fundamental
> points of agreement, too. I agree that public-private is a false zero sum
> dichotomy. I would add that the economy and counter-economies (including
> commons) are likewise co-dependent antagonists. I think less that a
> commons-based paradigm must assert hegemony over some prior paradigm than
> that a new balance of power must be struck between the various
> constituencies in the mainstream culture, counter-cultures, mainstream
> economy, and counter-economies. Hegemony is a flawed objective that
> perpetuates pendulum swings just like the famous reciprocating vendettas.
> What we need is a steady state homeostasis. That is something which must be
> eased into gently and gradually. That said, there is no time or effort to
> waste. The old growth-based economy is heading for a perfect storm of
> climate change, peak oil, peak water, and peak food. It is like a cattle
> stampede in an old western movie. The stampede must be turned before the
> entire herd of humanity hurdles over a cliff. And yet somehow we must do
> this with considerable restraint and finesse. This requires less
> intellectual theory than pragmatic architecture and engineering. This
> requires that we work both within the system (law, politics, economics,
> culture, etc.) and outside of it, preferably in a coordinated manner. As one
> example, take the fascist think tank ALEC that for many years has been
> creating templates for bills that can be introduced by industry-funded
> republicans in state legislatures. Several thousand such bills have been
> introduced with apparently about an 18% success rate. Progressives and
> commoners need a similar mass incubation process for state, county, and
> municipal statutes, ordinances, and regualtions and for commons-based
> enterprises. The templates can be skeletal and a la cafeteria to allow for
> local diversity without necessarily reinventing the wheels in every state
> and community."
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