looking forward to your final proposal ...<br><br>I'm guessing that when desperate anger takes over, everything looking commercial and institutional, is a target ...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Cubitt S.R. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I hadn't heard that: there have been protests over library closures, not only form the well-read but as community drop-in centre, homeless shelter, place for elderly to keep warm and read the paper. Levels of literacy in the affected boroughs are appalling. I'm reworking my book on eco-critique outwards in an attempt to include those kinds of environment: the economic failure is half a story whose other side is the abandonment of the relatively newly created underclass (really a Thatcher invention) by all political parties – including the greens and all but a handful of ultraleft groups<br>
<br>
gangs are the only educational force framed for these circumstances.<br>
<br>
Perhaps libraries burn as one of the few local services offering some sort of alternative (or perhaps the Schadenfreude of banned rowdies? In the fog of war . . . I blogged "Now is not the time for action; now is the time for talk" but there's very little – and will be less with Cameron's hatred of any education or research other than STEM (science-technology-engineering-medecine)<br>
<br>
Which gets me neatly back to clearing my desk so I can write the bid on Monday in such a way as to sneak our research in under a neoliberal CFP (nil desperandum: if AHRC like it they will help sell to the politicians as needed: first steps first: the square circle of P2P culture with often far more staid busniess school colleagues<br>
<br>
S<br>
<br>
PS reading the edition of ephemera on digital labour (also a good piece in an earlier issue on universities) - may add a strand of that to the bid<br>
<a href="http://www.ephemeraweb.org/journal/10-3/10-3index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ephemeraweb.org/journal/10-3/10-3index.htm</a><br>
<div class="im"><br>
S<br>
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From: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>><br>
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</div>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 09:47:53 +0100<br>
<div class="im">To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy <<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a>>><br>
</div><div class="im">Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">hi sean,<br>
<br>
I also read that in London, some local libraries were targetted ....<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Cubitt S.R. <<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>
Her refelction: "If they bomb us, our literacy campaigns must be having some effect".<br>
<br>
Wish we could say the same of lessons of the riots: the only shop untouched on Clpaham High Street: Waterstones the bookshop<br>
<br>
S<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">From: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>>><br>
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</div><div class="im">Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:28:40 +0100<br>
</div>To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the Creative Economy <<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-centre@lists.ourproject.org</a>>>><br>
<div class="im">Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid<br>
<br>
we're back on track on the 'overdo' dept ... wow, to still be working in places like afghanistan<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Cubitt S.R. <<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>>> wrote:<br>
That would be great Michel<br>
<br>
Very sorry to hear you've been unell. I was momentarily distracted: a friend recently started at the British Council and was due to be in Kabul, where their compaund was bombed overnight: insh'allah, she's fine. But the reality checks are everywhere. Keep well, and don't pver do it!!<br>
sean<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">From: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>>>><br>
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</div><div class="im">Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:10:53 +0100<br>
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Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">if you want me to eventually check and comment on the text, do let me know, I have opportunity either before 25 or after august 30 ..<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Cubitt S.R. <<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
excellent: I'll point towards the international range of scholars involved; and it looks like the cooperative venture shd be fine as mutual benefit. Diana is the whizz at fixing legal things, and Nikki who she's asked to look at it will be able to assess how we can cover costs at the very least (<br>
<br>
Thanks too for the comments on my v. untutored draft - I'll incorporate / replace my rants, and get a draft done if not on Monday then by Wednesday – after that I'm incommunicado more r less walking from winchester to canterbury for about 10 days<br>
<br>
sean<br>
<br>
</div>From: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>>>>><br>
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<div class="im">Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:42:14 +0100<br>
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<div class="im">Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing the details,<br>
<br>
so essentially we are a nonprofit 'foundation' under dutch law, recognized by the EU,<br>
<br>
and we also have a legal Dutch coop that is associated with it, whenever a 'private' partner is required,<br>
<br>
the Association of P2P Researchers has no legal existence, and has not yet been formally launched, though it reflects the reality of a network of interested researchers,<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Cubitt S.R. <<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk">S.R.Cubitt@soton.ac.uk</a>>>>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Franco and colleagues<br>
<br>
<br>
I will be discussingthis with members of the Southampton research office<br>
shortly - basically they have asked me - as the only person not on leave -<br>
to draft an expression of interest. This will have to be quite open: we<br>
must involve other interest groups in the university; and there may be<br>
constraints on links with other UK institutions<br>
<br>
On the positive side, we are near fixing a public debate between Lawrence<br>
Lessig and Ian Hargreaves, the author of the Digital Britain report that<br>
started al this<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Here are Diana Galpin's notes; followed by her response to my suggestion<br>
that Volker might be the director. I need to know the legal standing of<br>
P2P (registered charoty / trust / not-for-profit / country/ies of<br>
incirporation etc for these pruposes; also Volker I am presuming you are<br>
freelance for these purposes: can you send me a CV<br>
<br>
I have a skype conference with the admin team this morning at 11.30/12 BST<br>
<br>
Sean<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:06<br>
<br>
Sounds a good result. We do need to be careful about what and how much we<br>
expect P2P to do as from the looks of things they are an international<br>
organisation. Now that is fine but we may not be able to flow grant monies<br>
to them..<br>
<br>
Niki P checked with AHRC and their response was that an international<br>
company could participate in Œmutually beneficial¹ hub based activities<br>
that were badged under the heading of Œinternational cooperation¹ and paid<br>
for using the grant. The reciprocity would arise from the fact the<br>
company might be making a contribution to the project (indirectly) through<br>
their participation and bringing new knowledge/expertise into the arena.<br>
However, it would not be possible to pay an international company for<br>
other goods and services or enter into a contracting/sub-contracting<br>
relationship on a one-to-one basis using AHRC grant monies.<br>
<br>
Of course that was with respect to them being a companyŠ are they? Before<br>
we can get definitive advice from AHRC can you confirm what type of<br>
organisation they are and in what capacity you would expect them to be<br>
involved?<br>
<br>
If you are going ahead with a telecom probably worth including Nikki<br>
Matthews as she probably has most capacity to provide the RIS support to<br>
you at the moment.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards<br>
<br>
Diana<br>
<br>
<br>
Diana Galpin<br>
Senior Legal Adviser<br>
Research & Innovation Services<br>
Direct Tel: 023 8059 8673<br>
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Sean<br>
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Careful on the automatic ³employ Volker as a director² front being your<br>
easy fix as any role would need to be advertised externally following<br>
usual University of Southampton HR and recruitment policiesŠ I am also not<br>
entirely sure whether due to limitations on our insurance, health & safety<br>
risks & complexities of then having to adopt local employment laws etc<br>
that we would employ someone to be permanently based overseas<br>
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Sorry not trying to put barriers in the way but help guide you to what is<br>
possible/not!<br>
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KR<br>
DIana<br>
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