[Centre] Work in the bid

[Michel Bauwens]

we're back on track on the 'overdo' dept ... wow, to still be working in
places like afghanistan

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Cubitt S.R. <S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> That would be great Michel
>
> Very sorry to hear you've been unell. I was momentarily distracted: a
> friend recently started at the British Council and was due to be in Kabul,
> where their compaund was bombed overnight: insh'allah, she's fine. But the
> reality checks are everywhere. Keep well, and don't pver do it!!
> sean
>
> From: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net<mailto:
> michel at p2pfoundation.net>>
> Reply-To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models
> in the Creative Economy <p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org<mailto:
> p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>>
> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:10:53 +0100
> To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in
> the Creative Economy <p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org<mailto:
> p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>>
> Cc: james burke <lifesized at gmail.com<mailto:lifesized at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid
>
> if you want me to eventually check and comment on the text, do let me know,
> I have opportunity either before 25 or after august 30 ..
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Cubitt S.R. <S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk
> <mailto:S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
> excellent: I'll point towards the international range of scholars involved;
> and it looks like the cooperative venture shd be fine as mutual benefit.
> Diana is the whizz at fixing legal things, and Nikki who she's asked to look
> at it will be able to assess how we can cover costs at the very least (
>
> Thanks too for the comments on my v. untutored draft -  I'll incorporate /
> replace my rants, and get a draft done if not on Monday then by Wednesday –
> after that I'm incommunicado more r less walking from winchester to
> canterbury for about 10 days
>
> sean
>
> From: Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net<mailto:
> michel at p2pfoundation.net><mailto:michel at p2pfoundation.net<mailto:
> michel at p2pfoundation.net>>>
> Reply-To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models
> in the Creative Economy <p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org<mailto:
> p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org><mailto:p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org
> <mailto:p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>>>
> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:42:14 +0100
> To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in
> the Creative Economy <p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org<mailto:
> p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org><mailto:p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org
> <mailto:p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>>>
> Cc: james burke <lifesized at gmail.com<mailto:lifesized at gmail.com><mailto:
> lifesized at gmail.com<mailto:lifesized at gmail.com>>>
> Subject: Re: [Centre] Work in the bid
>
> Thanks for sharing the details,
>
> so essentially we are a nonprofit 'foundation' under dutch law, recognized
> by the EU,
>
> and we also have a legal Dutch coop that is associated with it, whenever a
> 'private' partner is required,
>
> the Association of P2P Researchers has no legal existence, and has not yet
> been formally launched, though it reflects the reality of a network of
> interested researchers,
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Cubitt S.R. <S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk
> <mailto:S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk><mailto:S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk<mailto:
> S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Hi Franco and colleagues
>
>
> I will be discussingthis with members of the Southampton research office
> shortly - basically they have asked me - as the only person not on leave -
> to draft an expression of interest. This will have to be quite open: we
> must involve other interest groups in the university; and there may be
> constraints on links with other UK institutions
>
> On the positive side, we are near fixing a public debate between Lawrence
> Lessig and Ian Hargreaves, the author of the Digital Britain report that
> started al this
>
>
>
> Here are Diana Galpin's notes; followed by her response to my suggestion
> that Volker might be the director. I need to know the legal standing of
> P2P (registered charoty / trust / not-for-profit / country/ies of
> incirporation etc for these pruposes; also Volker I am presuming you are
> freelance for these purposes: can you send me a CV
>
> I have a skype conference with the admin team this morning at 11.30/12 BST
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:06
>
> Sounds a good result. We do need to be careful about what and how much we
> expect P2P to do as from the looks of things they are an international
> organisation. Now that is fine but we may not be able to flow grant monies
> to them..
>
> Niki P checked with AHRC and their response was that an international
> company could participate in Œmutually beneficial¹ hub based activities
> that were badged under the heading of Œinternational cooperation¹ and paid
> for using the grant.  The reciprocity would arise from the fact  the
> company might be making a contribution to the project (indirectly) through
> their participation and bringing new knowledge/expertise into the arena.
> However, it would not be possible to pay an international company for
> other goods and services or enter into a contracting/sub-contracting
> relationship on a one-to-one basis using AHRC grant monies.
>
> Of course that was with respect to them being a companyŠ are they? Before
> we can get definitive advice from AHRC can you confirm what type of
> organisation they are and in what capacity you would expect them to be
> involved?
>
> If you are going ahead with a telecom probably worth including Nikki
> Matthews as she probably has most capacity to provide the RIS support to
> you at the moment.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Diana
>
>
> Diana Galpin
> Senior Legal Adviser
> Research & Innovation Services
> Direct Tel: 023 8059 8673
> Mobile: 07979852362
> Fax: 023 8059 8671
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>
> Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:49
>
>
> Sean
>
> Careful on the automatic ³employ Volker as a director² front being your
> easy fix as any role would need to be advertised externally following
> usual University of Southampton HR and recruitment policiesŠ I am also not
> entirely sure whether due to limitations on our insurance, health & safety
> risks & complexities of then having to adopt local employment laws etc
> that we would employ someone to be permanently based overseas
>
> Sorry not trying to put barriers in the way but help guide you to what is
> possible/not!
>
> KR
> DIana
>
>
>
> >
>
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