[Musix-users] USB Midisport (license doubt)

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Yuck, this licence stuff silly... hehe

Well I own a midisport so i hope to be able to use it....I can
understand that you don't have one, but whoy should you not be able to
include the files (since only the people who bought the hardware can
actually USE the drivers, so the the manufacturor got payed for it.
And paying twice would be a bit strange.

What i don't understan is why ALSA states on the site that the
midisport 4x4 (and also the GINA) is supported, ALSA is under GNU GPL,
so i asumed that if you install ALSA that all the suported hardware
should work without adding external files.

Then something else, the midisport should be a USB 'class compliant'
device the hardware should be build by the rules in this document
http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/midi10.pdf
So any driver build for this purpose should be able to communicate to
the hardware without any firmware needs. Other hardware (like
steinberg midex) uses a diffrent hardware plan not compliant to these
specs, and they don't release information on how it is build. So for
those devices it's impossible to create drivers.

Back to ALSA... then again i say the ALSA driver should be able to
communicate with the midisport 4x4 based on the info i just gave you
(That is.... If i understand it the right way)

also look on this page
http://www.ferventsoftware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=82

same story and a direct reference to ALSA

I hope this does not draw you away from your work to much... if it
does then please say so.

Mano.





On 6/20/06, Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica at gmail.com> wrote:
> El Martes, 20 de Junio de 2006 05:54, MNO escribió:
> > Thx, today i'm learning things!
> >
> > But in this screen
> > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/images/3/34/Rosegarden-gestionar-timidity.jpg
> > i expect to find 4 midisport ins and outs but somehow i can't get them to
> > show.
> >
> > Due to the gina firmware questions i started looking for midisport
> > firmware and on sourceforge i found midisport firmware loader 1.2. Is
> > that what you use in Musix aswell?
>
> I dont have this kind of hardware.
>
> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87777&package_id=9266
> >6 Thats what i found at the Demudi site.  Or does this cause GPL issues?
>
>
> Yes, I think... I will ask Richard Stallman, this is the license:
>
> "The firmware files (*.ihx) are copyrighted by Midiman, and can be used
> and redistributed only as part of this package.
>
> All other files are distributed under the following license:
>
> Copyright (c) 2003-2006 Clemens Ladisch <clemens at ladisch.de>
>
> Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any
> purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above
> copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies.
>
> Alternatively, this software may be distributed and/or modified under
> the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
> Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your
> option) any later version.
>
> THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES
> WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
> MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR
> ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES
> WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN
> ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF
> OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE."
>
>
> Is this a free software license? Or: is this free software?
>
>
> "can be used and redistributed only as part of this package" make it non-free?
>
>
> Thanks Richard...
>
>
> >
> > Mano
> >
> > On 6/19/06, Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > El Martes, 20 de Junio de 2006 02:16, MNO escribió:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I used USB viewer (the USB link on the Admin desktop)
> > > > when i loaded the USB viewer after boot it did not find the midisport
> > > > 4x4. Though, when i unplugged the USB and reconnected then the unknown
> > > > device showed up.
> > > >
> > > > Since i'm a newbie, keep in mind that i'm missing 99,99% of
> > > > understanding what i'm doing. (I just want to make music in a low
> > > > budget situation)
> > >
> > > Ok
> > >
> > > > I did
> > > >  modprob snd-usb-audio
> > >
> > > modprobe snd-usb-audio
> > >
> > > > I now used the PCinfo tool and there it does mention the midisport,
> > >
> > > OH, yes? So, it must be running...
> > >
> > > Could you send us the pcinfo.txt file?
> > >
> > > OR: If you type into a terminal: "lsmod | grep usb" what does it shows?
> > >
> > > > but none of the LED's on the interface light up, and in Rosegarden or
> > > > other apps i can't find any Midi In/Out to select.
> > >
> > > From JACK Control, see the MIDI Tab!
> > >
> > > Or
> > >
> > > From Rosegarden, see:
> > >
> > > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/DocMIDISystems#MIDI_Keyboards.2C_
> > >hardware_and_soft_synths
> > >
> > > > Could it be i misunderstand how to select a midi input in linux (due
> > > > to microsoft brainwash)?
> > >
> > > Something like this, but, it¡s easy, you will see :D
> > >
> > > > Mano.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/19/06, Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > El Lunes, 19 de Junio de 2006 23:30, MNO escribió:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where can i find a tutorial to configuring the midisport interface
> > > > > > under Musix?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I noticed that the interface is not detected on boot, i need to
> > > > > > unplug and reconnect the USB cable, then USB detects it.
> > > > >
> > > > > What app detects it?
> > > > >
> > > > > > But as a 'unknown
> > > > > > device'. So now i need to learn how to get it working in
> > > > > > Musix/Rosegarden.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still working from the Live CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > See: http://alsa.opensrc.org/usb-audio
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you loaded the usb audio module?
> > > > >
> > > > >         In a terminal window, type:
> > > > >
> > > > > modprobe snd-usb-audio
> > > > >
> > > > > We had not added it to:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Drivers_System
> > > > >
> > > > > (updated, now)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have any succes, just tell as please!
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 6/19/06, DCZX <downerczx at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Marcos,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well.. I tried everything. Here are the results:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > mv /usr/sbin/mkxf86config
> > > > > > > /usr/sbin/mkxf86config-disabled
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even after this, the resolution continues to reset. It
> > > > > > > is not dependant upon a reboot. I simply have to
> > > > > > > logout  and then login and my resolution has reset to
> > > > > > > 1600x1200 from 1280x1024. This is consistent. I
> > > > > > > believe that Kcontrol is not saving the configuration
> > > > > > > for the monitor. I don't know what to do at this
> > > > > > > point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gtk-theme-switch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I ran this and hit apply. Still, some programs had
> > > > > > > tiny fonts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really think there is something wrong with Kcontrol.
> > > > > > > I'm using IceWM-English version. I tried it in the
> > > > > > > Spanish version though and it was the same effect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I really don't understand how it sets my resolution to
> > > > > > > 1600x1200 when I deleted the entries in xorg.conf for
> > > > > > > that resolution and renamed mkxf86config. Very odd.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have any further ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for your time,
> > > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Marcos Guglielmetti <marcospcmusica at gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > El Domingo, 18 de Junio de 2006 00:23, DCZX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > escribi�:
> > > > > > > > > Please, is there a way to save the desktop
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > settings?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, it depends on wath kind of settings do you
> > > > > > > > mean...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > xorg:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > mv /usr/sbin/mkxf86config
> > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/mkxf86config-disabled
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > GTK: gtk-theme-switch
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > KDE: kcontrol
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Every time I login, I have to reset my resolutions
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > over again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > mv /usr/sbin/mkxf86config
> > > > > > > > /usr/sbin/mkxf86config-disabled
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm just about ready to give up on Musix
> > > > > > > > > from all the configuration hassles. =(
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, that would be sad
> > > > > > > >
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