[JoPP-Public] Future of Journal of Peer Production (JoPP): the end of the line?

Mon Nov 5 03:52:11 CET 2018

Thanks Mathieu,

yes it will be interesting to see where #13 takes us ...

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 13:35, Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
wrote:

> Hi Andrew, all
>
>
> Thanks for your message. Briefly (I don't want to pre-empt other
> responses):
>
>
> 1.Someone signaled on the jopp-ed list that they may have an idea for
> jopp#14. More on this asap.
>
>
> 2.Really appreciate your thoughts on OA journals / political economy of
> scientific-scholarly publishing. As you know we are planning to have a
> special section in jopp#13 for OA journals. Could be good opportunity to
> assess where we're at and articulate some ideas / interventions to move
> forward re Elsevier / OA labour...?
>
>
> cheers
>
> Mathieu
>
>
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> *From:* JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org> on behalf
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> *Sent:* Monday, November 5, 2018 10:51
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> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Future of Journal of Peer Production (JoPP):
> the end of the line?
>
> Hi Mathieu,
>
> We're facing the same kinds of questions at the Fibreculture Journal.
> We're keeping on keeping on the for moment but we'll see what happens next
> year. A while back we were almost thinking of an issue on this very issue
> .. current state of OA publishing, why it's become difficult, the life
> cycle of journals that are fully OA etc etc .. why the potential has not
> yet actualised in anything like the way it could ...
>
> Something on the future of Scholarly Comms (a term that perhaps becomes
> redundant when I think about it ... )
>
> Watched Paywall last night. All through my partner and I were talking
> about something that seemed not to quite come up .. which is the question
> of labour .... "the modes of peer production" I guess. Although I think
> JoPP has dealt with this some in #10. I know this has been a huge issue at
> FCJ. We've all burned out at some stage with the work (and complete lack of
> credit even in university workloads .. universities love journals but seem
> to think journal issues just pop out of the ground by themselves like
> mushrooms).
>
> It's also, I have to say, been quite hard to FCJ to make a transition into
> doing things differently, more in tune with what we see as contemporary
> events, largely because forces keep pulling us back to traditional forms of
> credit etc when it comes to the form and process of the work.
>
> I know other journals and so forth have faced similar issues.
>
> Among these and other questions (very prevalent throughout Paywall, and
> certainly in my mind as editor of FCJ since at least 2008 ... the first ERA
> ranking exercise ...and now with UNSW where I work's own "journal rankings"
> exercise) ... is the whole politics of infrastructure—reactionary we well
> know—that has developed around publishing now ... at exactly the same time
> that OA and much more beyond this in terms of "scholarly comms" has
> thrived, in what I'm calling a "third media revolution" (most of publishing
> has become even more stubbornly "second media revolution" that is, the
> reproduction and distribution of representations, e.g. the printing press
> but also the like of social media) ...
>
> So one idea (and I hesitate as I'm beyond time poor) might be a cross many
> OA venture (as in venture communism) celebration, exploration into the
> beyond, and also critical evaluation of the contemporary state of
> whatever-it-is-that-scholarly-comms-is-becoming. This could also be seen as
> an activist intervention into the state of things, e.g. the politics of
> scholarly infrastructure, but also, rankings and research organisations
> especially (think of e.g. Plan S here, although I've recently heard that
> the "fix is in" on this .. at least in the UK, with Elsevier no less part
> of the discussions now being undertaken) ... Interventions of commercial
> consultants, etc. Our entire university is now run via "rankings" etc. Tied
> of course to the future of the university or
> whatever-it-it-universities-are-(un)becoming .. then there would be
> questions about forms of comms and scholarly comms and processes through
> this; data, media and comms and (to my mind) the almost total lack of
> understanding of any of these except in the most outmoded and frankly
> limited way on the part of research organisation and infrastructure high
> and low , etc etc.
>
> None of this means that JoPP should continue, if it has served its
> purpose. Probably just thinking on my feet. And it could go on without it
> (which sensibly would leave those who have made JoPP work so well with some
> time of their hands to do other things. As someone who has spent far too
> much time on an OA journal, to the detriment of my other work, I can say it
> is sometimes a good idea to let things go).
>
> andrew
>
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 19:59, Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
>
> Steve and I have been working on JoPP #13 OPEN to be released in the first
> half of 2019. After that, it's anybody's guess.
>
>
> JoPP#14 should come out in the first half of 2020 but for that to happen
> someone(s) has to come up with a concept - and CFP!  Maurizio proposed
> something around the commons/STS a while back but this has not translated
> into concrete action (yet).
>
>
> If no-one is willing / able to continue the JoPP journey it may be time to
> plan for officially entering hiatus mode after JoPP #13.
>
>
> Perhaps the Journal has served its purpose - raised awareness and
> knowledge of peer production, linked with makers/activists, fostered a
> community - and something else needs to take its place?
>
>
> Or, someone(s) want(s) to keep the project moving forward. If that is the
> case, please say so. CFP for JoPP #14 should go out soon.
>
>
> Personally I've co-edited two of the last four issues (#10 and upcoming
> #13) and have a lot on my plate in the coming year. I might have issues to
> explore in JoPP in the future, but not now.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Mathieu
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Whitehead

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Vajrayana Buddhism, Bengal)

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School of the Arts and Media,
University of New South Wales,
Sydney, Australia, 2052

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