[JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
Mathieu ONeil
mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
Thu Aug 17 12:42:44 CEST 2017
Hi Stefan, all
But what about author rights? Big point raised by DOAJ -see trail below
The proposed text (take from Shima journal) says:
Manuscripts which have been published as copyrighted material
>> elsewhere cannot be submitted. In addition, manuscripts under review
>> by the journal should not be resubmitted to copyrighted
>> publications. However, by submitting a manuscript, the author(s)
>> retain the rights to the published material
How can the author retain rights if CC0 means no-one has copyright?
Color me confused,
cheers
Mathieu
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From: JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org> on behalf of Stefan Meretz <stefan at meretz.de>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 19:52
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Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
There is a FAQ which may answer your question?
https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ
CC0 FAQ - Creative Commons<https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_FAQ>
wiki.creativecommons.org
These FAQs contain information that you should familiarize yourself with before using CC0. The information provided below is not exhaustive – it may not cover ...
Basically, I see not difference.
IMHO CC0 is an explicit statement putting some work into PD, while PD
also automatically applies to works falling out of copyright.
Best,
Stefan
Am 17.08.2017 um 11:12 schrieb Mathieu ONeil:
> Hi Stefan, all
>
>
> Fine with me, and its what we have already though it occurs to me
> that maybe the fact that Public Domain is a CC licence and "the public
> domain" is a general concept may be confusing?
>
>
> cheers
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org> on behalf
> of Stefan Meretz <stefan at meretz.de>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 18:13
> *To:* Journal of Peer Production's general and public list; Steve Collins
> *Cc:* angela.daly at qut.edu.au
> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
> Journal of Peer Production
>
> No. Why not stay with PD? Explicitly done via
> https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/
[https://creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/logo-cc-heart-green.png]<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
Public domain - Creative Commons<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
creativecommons.org
Our licenses help authors keep and manage their copyright on terms they choose. Our public domain tools, on the other hand, enable authors and copyright owners who ...
> <https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
[https://creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/logo-cc-heart-green.png]<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
Public domain - Creative Commons<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
creativecommons.org
Our licenses help authors keep and manage their copyright on terms they choose. Our public domain tools, on the other hand, enable authors and copyright owners who ...
>
> Public domain - Creative Commons
> <https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
[https://creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/logo-cc-heart-green.png]<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
Public domain - Creative Commons<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/>
creativecommons.org
Our licenses help authors keep and manage their copyright on terms they choose. Our public domain tools, on the other hand, enable authors and copyright owners who ...
> creativecommons.org
> Our licenses help authors keep and manage their copyright on terms they
> choose. Our public domain tools, on the other hand, enable authors and
> copyright owners who ...
>
>
>
>
> Or with any other free cultural work license:
> https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/freeworks/
Understanding Free Cultural Works - Creative Commons<https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/freeworks/>
creativecommons.org
Creative Commons provides a range of licenses, each of which grants different rights to use the materials licensed under them. All of these licenses offer more ...
> Understanding Free Cultural Works - Creative Commons
> <https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/freeworks/>
> creativecommons.org
> Creative Commons provides a range of licenses, each of which grants
> different rights to use the materials licensed under them. All of these
> licenses offer more ...
>
>
>
>
> Best,
> Stefan
>
> Am 17.08.2017 um 09:55 schrieb Mathieu ONeil:
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>> Does everyone agree?
>>
>>
>> Also do we declare we use CCA-NC-etc like below?
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 17:48
>> *To:* Journal of Peer Production's general and public list; Mathieu ONeil
>> *Cc:* angela.daly at qut.edu.au
>> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
>> Journal of Peer Production
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Yeah, that's it. I know that Shima is registered with DOAJ too and I
>> assume that its text was acceptable so perhaps we can appropriate?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Steve
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 at 5:44 pm, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
>> <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve, all
>>
>>
>> For Shima they say the following (amongst many other things - some
>> good ideas we could use, if we wanted) - is this what you mean?
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>> The journal is licenced under a Creative Commons
>> Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/>. Articles
>> accepted for publication in /Shima/ may be posted in open access
>> repositories and/or on author’s personal research pages upon
>> completion of the journal’s proofing processes in the form supplied
>> to the authors (and identified as forthcoming).
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Manuscripts which have been published as copyrighted material
>> elsewhere cannot be submitted. In addition, manuscripts under review
>> by the journal should not be resubmitted to copyrighted
>> publications. However, by submitting a manuscript, the author(s)
>> retain the rights to the published material
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org
>> <mailto:jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org>> on behalf of
>> Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
>> <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 15:38
>> *To:* Steve Collins
>> *Cc:* angela.daly at qut.edu.au <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>;
>> Journal list
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
>> Journal of Peer Production
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve, all
>>
>>
>> In the black block at the bottom of every webpage it says on the
>> right (in grey so quite hard to read):
>>
>>
>> "Journal of Peer Production - ISSN: 2213-5316
>> All the contents of this journal are in the public domain."
>>
>> cheers
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au
>> <mailto:stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 15:01
>>
>> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
>> *Cc:* Journal list; angela.daly at qut.edu.au
>> <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
>> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
>> Journal of Peer Production
>> Well, in my experience I've not heard of any uni enforcing its
>> rights and restricting authors (I'm sure it's happened to someone,
>> somewhere though :P).
>>
>> Sorry Mathieu, I'm, a little unclear on what you meant by 'now it
>> just says "all pubs in public domain"' - what says that? JoPP?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Mathieu ONeil
>> <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve, all
>>
>>
>> We had a lot of discussion about (c) in the beginning and
>> adopted I think CC-BY-SA ? but now it just says "all pubs in
>> public domain".
>>
>>
>> I guess we need to stay true to our free software roots somehow,
>> so not sure about the uni/author nexus...?
>>
>>
>> Others?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au
>> <mailto:stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:52
>> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
>> *Cc:* Journal list; angela.daly at qut.edu.au
>> <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
>> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to
>> DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
>>
>> Hi Mathieu
>>
>> What's JoPP's current arrangement with copyrights - is there a
>> current arrangement? I'm guessing that authors don't agree to
>> anything when they submit an article to JoPP. We'll need to
>> implement something for the future - but also need to work on
>> what to do with work that's already been published. To add
>> complexity to the situation it's usual for universities to own
>> the IP in academics' work.
>>
>> I spoke to a colleague who manages an online journal that is
>> registered with DOAJ, and their (c) statement is quite brief but
>> might provide a template? http://shimajournal.org/index.php
>> Publication Details - Shima: The International Journal of ...
>> <http://shimajournal.org/index.php>
>> shimajournal.org <http://shimajournal.org>
>> Shima is a SCOPUS registered peer-refereed academic journal that
>> is published twice a year in open access online form and has
>> been registered with the Directory of ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers
>> steve
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Mathieu ONeil
>> <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, again
>>
>>
>> To help move things along here are the two places on the
>> journal site where text could be amended. I realise some of
>> you may be enjoying the /dolce far niente/of the Northern
>> summer, but, well...
>>
>>
>> I've made the required changes to the low-hanging fruit
>> i.e. article processing charges and open access [in bold] below.
>>
>>
>> However for this next requirement I am less certain; where
>> exactly do we stand on author copyright? Steve and Angela,
>> I'm looking at you! 😊
>>
>> "Your application also stated that the author does not hold
>> the copyright without restrictions, and does not retain
>> publishing rights without restrictions. However, I could not
>> find any information about the copyright transfer
>> requirement, or an indication of the rights holder for a
>> published paper. This signals a lack of transparency in the
>> authoring and publishing process. If you send me a link
>> where this information can be found, I can update
>> your DOAJ application."
>>
>>
>>
>> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>>
>> <http://peerproduction.net/about/mission-statement/>
>>
>>
>> Mission Statement
>> The Journal of Peer Production (JoPP) seeks high-quality
>> contributions from researchers and practitioners of peer
>> production. We understand peer production as a mode of
>> commons-based and oriented production in which participation
>> is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
>> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free
>> Software projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.
>> Through the analysis of the forms, operations, and
>> contradictions of peer producing communities in contemporary
>> capitalist society, the journal aims to open up new
>> perspectives on the implications of peer production for
>> social change.
>> Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: [etc]
>>
>> CHANGE TO =>
>>
>> Mission Statement
>> The Journal of Peer Production (JoPP) seeks high-quality
>> contributions from researchers and practitioners of peer
>> production. We understand peer production as a mode of
>> commons-based and oriented production in which participation
>> is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
>> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free
>> Software projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.
>> Through the analysis of the forms, operations, and
>> contradictions of peer producing communities in contemporary
>> capitalist society, the journal aims to open up new
>> perspectives on the implications of peer production for
>> social change.
>> *The Journal of Peer Production is an open access academic
>> journal that allows readers to read, download, copy,
>> distribute, print, search, and link to the full texts of
>> articles, or use them for any other lawful purpose except
>> where otherwise noted.*
>> Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: [etc]
>>
>>
>> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>>
>> <http://peerproduction.net/about/submissions/>
>>
>> How to submit to the Journal of Peer Production
>> JoPP will be published twice a year. All scientific
>> contributions will be peer reviewed.
>> If you have a question about the suitability of your
>> contribution to JoPP, please contact the editorial team by
>> posting to the (not publicly archived) editorial team
>> mailing list: jopp [dash] editorial [at] lists [dot]
>> ourproject [dot] org
>> Once papers have been accepted, it is the author’s
>> responsibility to format them in accordance with our
>> specifications.
>>
>> CHANGE TO =>
>>
>> How to submit to the Journal of Peer Production
>> *No article processing charges (APCs**) or article
>> submission charges are required to publish in JoPP.*
>> JoPP will be published twice a year. All scientific
>> contributions will be peer reviewed.
>> If you have a question about the suitability of your
>> contribution to JoPP, please contact the editorial team by
>> posting to the (not publicly archived) editorial team
>> mailing list: jopp [dash] editorial [at] lists [dot]
>> ourproject [dot] org
>> Once papers have been accepted, it is the author’s
>> responsibility to format them in accordance with our
>> specifications.
>>
>>
>> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>>
>> cheers,
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* JoPP-Public
>> <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org
>> <mailto:jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org>> on behalf
>> of Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
>> <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:44
>> *To:* Journal list
>> *Subject:* [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to
>> DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Response from DOAJ FYI. I guess we need to be more explicit
>> in our language. Does anyone have thoughts on the below?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Rhonda Marker <rmarker at rutgers.edu
>> <mailto:rmarker at rutgers.edu>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:24
>> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
>> *Cc:* Rhonda Marker
>> *Subject:* Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer
>> Production
>>
>>
>> Dear Dr. O’Neil,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am one of the volunteer Associate Editors at Directory of
>> Open Access Journals (DOAJ). I am currently processing your
>> application for Journal of Peer Production to be included in
>> DOAJ.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your application states that you do not have article
>> processing charges (APCs) or article submission charges.
>> However, the link you gave where this information can be
>> found does not mention APCs or submission charges. In order
>> to be included in DOAJ, you must explicitly state that you
>> do not have such charges.
>>
>>
>>
>> One of the requirements for entry into DOAJ is that your
>> journal website must include an open access statement. The
>> link provided on the application,
>> http://peerproduction.net/, does not have a statement. I
>> would like to suggest that you take a look at some of the
>> journals that are currently in DOAJ. /Film Criticism/ has a
>> brief, clear statement about open access that also describes
>> how readers can use the content:
>> http://www.filmcriticismjournal.org/about.html Using such a
>> statement would also fulfill another requirements for
>> inclusion in DOAJ: stating your license or use terms for the
>> reader.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Your application also stated that the author does not hold
>> the copyright without restrictions, and does not retain
>> publishing rights without restrictions. However, I could not
>> find any information about the copyright transfer
>> requirement, or an indication of the rights holder for a
>> published paper. This signals a lack of transparency in the
>> authoring and publishing process. If you send me a link
>> where this information can be found, I can update your DOAJ
>> application.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rhonda Marker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rhonda J. Marker
>>
>> Director of Shared User Services
>>
>> Rutgers University Libraries
>>
>> Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
>>
>> p: 848-932-5923 <tel:%28848%29%20932-5923>
>>
>> rmarker at rutgers.edu <mailto:rmarker at rutgers.edu>
>>
>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-7635-816X
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Dr Steve Collins*
>> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
>> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies
>> Macquarie University
>>
>> P: (02) 9850 2165
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>> L: Y3A 191D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Dr Steve Collins*
>> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
>> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies
>> Macquarie University
>>
>> P: (02) 9850 2165
>> W: http://bit.ly/122QivW
>> L: Y3A 191D
>>
>> --
>> *Dr Steve Collins*
>> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
>> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies
>> Macquarie University
>>
>> P: (02) 9850 2165
>> W: http://bit.ly/122QivW
>> L: Y3A 191D
>>
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