[JoPP-Public] Book of Peer Production

Thu Nov 13 22:30:22 CET 2014

Hi maxigas, all

OK, so my first possible solution for the projects page was to divide it in several components:
-some independent from us (surveys, translations)
-some led by us (books)
But then I thought that some JoPP-people might do translations as well.

So I think we will need a more contingent, fluid taxonomy ie "this project done by jopp"; "this project outside jopp". Do you want to do this? Let me know. Nate commented in a different exchange that we should announce through lists etc as it is already circulating, so we need a stable URL.

Concerning web to print, all sounds good. I don't know much about that so happy to help you in any way I can.

Concerning PDFs, I agree that the current system is not ideal but until we have a 100% foolproof replacement in place I would not support replacing it.

cheers

Mathieu

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From: maxigas <maxigas at anargeek.net>
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Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Book of Peer Production

From: maxigas <maxigas at anargeek.net>
Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Book of Peer Production
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:33:33 +0100 (CET)

> From: Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Book of Peer Production
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:44:47 +0000
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> @Karin: many thanks for your work. It is really great and it means a lot to see this
>> volume come to fruition.
>
> !!! thanks for all the care you put into this.
>
>> @Johan: of course, congratulations to you and maxigas for this also. Please save a
>> copy for me. I will email you privately about how to get it.
>
> so, i have a bit more than 20 copies in Barcelona, and i think the rest are in
> Gotheburg.  so for mail orders bother Johan, but if you are passing by Barcelona
> you can also pick one up from me.  i also sold 7 at the Free Culture Forum here.
>
>> @All: as discussed we should put the book up on the jopp site. The "projects" page
>> currently describes itself as for projects "which we are not directly responsible for"
>> such as surveys and translations, so either the book goes elsewhere or we change this
>> description. It could go in "news" where the CFPs are posted but then there is
>> a small risk that as we add more content it will lose visibility. I am leaning towards
>> this second option so we can keep "projects" for outside contributions. What do the
>> book editors think?
>
> my opinion is that we should make physical volumes a "project", even in the
> sense that anybody not associated with the journal can make one (of course
> ideally they coordinate with us).
>
> i have two ideas how to help making more physical editions:
>
> 1. economic: we keep selling this volume and if we sell all, then the anon VC
> gets his ivestment back and there is some leftover money.  we keep the leftover
> money with a trustee and make it available to finance the next print run of
> another hardcopy project.  i think this is important because it was quite
> difficult to find the initial money to put into this printing.
>
> 2. technical: the pdf generator on the site gave us a lot of headaches and it
> should be phased out.  at the same time there is a renewed web-to-print movement
> around open source publishing tools, as far as i understand pioneered by Contanz
> (a group based in Brussels) and also pushed by Manufactura Independente in
> Lisbon.  so we should hook up with these people and see how to implement a
> system where the user can cherry pick the articles she wants to see in hardcopy,
> upload a cover and fill out a colophon, etc. and get a pdf ready to print.  this
> would allow people to easily produce readers for conferences, print the new
> issue, etc.
>
> from these two, 1. is a matter of decision, time and persistence to sell the
> anthology and 2. needs more thought and actual work.  i am happy to take on
> 2. tenatively and in the middle term, especially if there are a few people who
> are willing to work me on it, and of course if you think it is a good idea.
>
> ps: i would like to see the next hardcopy made with open source tools, fonts,
> etc. as well, possibly printed by a cooperative, etc. so that the form is true
> to the content...

sry i was a bit sloppy with the references there:

Constant (Brussels) -- Open Source Publishing Caravan:

http://osp.constantvzw.org/

Manufactura Independente (Lisbon) -- Libre Graphics Design & Research Studio

http://manufacturaindependente.org/

C. is doing automated web-to-print tools and M.I. open source publications like the Libre Graphics Magazine http://libregraphicsmag.com/

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