[implementations-list] [IMPORTANT] Setting up a Gmane mirror

Thu Jun 3 16:52:56 CEST 2010

Now, I guess one week was enough of "speak now or forever hold your
peace" -- apparently nobody really cares, so:

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:00:39PM +0000, Vegard Øye wrote:
> > At <https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/implementations-list/>,
> > there are gzipped mbox archives per-month, so it's not that bad -- I
> > can just download them all and `cat' them into a single file, but I
> > thought I'd ask anyway -- do you have access to a single file
> > containing all the archives?
> 
> No, I see no such option in the admin pages. :(

That's OK, it should be trivial to do it semi-manually, thanks for
checking.

> > I assume it's rather uncontroversial that we should be something in
> > the `gmane.emacs' hierarchy, so the question is about that
> > "something". My suggestion is `gmane.emacs.vim-emulation'
> 
> I think this is the best suggestion, since the list also talks about
> other packages like viper-in-more-modes.el and vim-mode.
> 
> > as a side note, the name of this list has always seemed really bad
> > to me -- it says nothing about what the list is about; but I guess
> > we have to live with that -- and those who might come after us, too.
> 
> It can be changed. Here are the relevant fields from the
> administrative interface, along with descriptions:

Well, only the meta-data you mention below can be changed, not the most
important thing, i.e. the address, which says it all (or rather nothing,
in our case). ;-) But I assume adjusting the meta-data to match that of
Gmane could be an improvement. 

[snip]

> SUBJECT_PREFIX: [implementations-list]
> 
>     This text will be prepended to subject lines of messages posted to
>     the list, to distinguish mailing list messages in mailbox
>     summaries. Brevity is premium here, it's ok to shorten long
>     mailing list names to something more concise, as long as it still
>     identifies the mailing list. You can also add a sequential number
>     by %d substitution directive. eg.; [listname %d] -> [listname 123]
>     (listname %05d) -> (listname 00123)

Please ditch this completely; I wanted to ask for its removal anyway --
it's no use and only takes away a lot of already-so-precious space in
the Subject: header. I doubt anyone uses it for anything -- you'd
normally manipulate your mail according to the occurence of the address
in From: or To:/Cc: headers.

> > 3. By default, nowadays Gmane encrypts all mail addresses in the
> > news and web interfaces as an anti-spam measure (it looks like
> > <joaotavora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org>).
> 
> Personally, I prefer people to see my real address.

Let's try it without encryption then.

So we're going to apply for a group

gmane.emacs.vim-emulation

with description

"Vim emulation in Emacs"

without e-mail address encryption.

There is also a "Project URL" field, which will be blank in our case, as
the list is not supposed to be limited to one project only.

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