[implementations-list] hello; list archives; viper remap; 3 Qs

[Alessandro Piras]

Hi Bayle,
I didn't look at your project yet, but I can answer your questions:
1) The selection region is distinct because it tries to emulate vim
visual mode. To emulate visual and block mode there's no other way,
because emacs would not select the character the cursor is on, plus
some other inconveniences, especially for linewise mode.
2, 3) That's how vi has always worked to my knowledge. So for any vi
user, and in particular for any vi user that often switches from vi(m)
to emacs+viper+vimpulse, that's the most efficient way to work, in
that you don't have to think (much) about the switch.
Furthermore, about p-P, I find it's easier to paste after the line the
cursor is on when pasting whole lines, and since I mostly cut and
paste whole lines, I find "p" pasting after more comfortable.
Alessandro Piras



2009/9/30 Bayle Shanks <bshanks.list at gmail.com>:
> Hi, I just thought I'd mention that the mailing list archives end in July.
> Apologies if this has already been reported.
>
> While I'm here, I guess I should introduce myself and my project, and ask
> some questions. I've been using Emacs awhile but not at an advanced level.
> Recently I heard a rumor that Emacs is bad for one's hands due to chording,
> and I have RSI problems, so I thought I'd check out Viper. Since I'm
> learning something new anyway, I decided to remap the Viper keyboard layout
> with the goal of minimizing chording and maximizing efficiency. Here is my
> current layout idea: http://bayleshanks.com/tips-computer-viperRemap . I've
> already implemented most of it, but it's not done yet.
>
> Some of the Viper elisp functions hardcoded some of the keystrokes, so I
> modified those (work-in-progress is at
> http://bayleshanks.com/src/home/emacs.d/viper-cmds-remap.el)-- I'll submit
> this part as a patch to Kifer when it's done. In addition, in a separate
> file (http://bayleshanks.com/src/home/emacs.d/viper-remap.el), I added some
> options to optionally alter the functionality of some commands (e.g. the
> "substitute char" command can be made to return to Vi command Mode when you
> leave the substitution area) and am adding some new commands that conserve
> keyboard real estate (e.g. combine / and n, combine m and `). This file also
> contains the code to actually remap the keys to my remapped layout. I'll
> post again when I'm done. Both of these files are linked to from the page
> http://bayleshanks.com/tips-computer-viperRemap.
>
> Questions: there's a few things i'm considering changing but maybe there's a
> reason that i don't know for them being the way they are. Could anyone tell
> me what the motivation is for the following / in what common sequences of
> actions the following is more efficient than the alternative:
>
> * vimpulse's selection region being different from the Emacs region
> * the cursor moving back one when entering Vi command Mode (i know there's a
> config option if i want to change this, but why is it this way?)
> * p being "put after" whereas P is "put right here" (i would have thought P
> would be more commonly used)
>
> thanks,
>  bayle
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